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FYI, the part number for the 1 piece oil pan gasket w/snap screws to aid
installation is described as =E2=80=9CFord Small-Block V8 289 & 302 (1962 -=
1987)
on their website is:
Fel-Pro =E2=80=9COS 13260 T
It is available from the usual places and worked a treat (a 1965 289 was
transplanted in to my Tiger MK1 in the distant past by some PO).
On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 3:41 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com> wrote:
> Sometimes the starter relay just quits. I had the starter relay work
> fine one day then fail the next day =E2=80=93 they can be fickle.
>
> I hope you have had luck solving this problem.
>
>
>
> Please relay, to all, the Fel Pro part number for the 1 piece oil pan
> gasket; I=E2=80=99m sure others are interested too.
>
>
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *R Flynn via
> Tigers
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 20, 2020 11:09 AM
> *To:* <tigers@Autox.Team.Net> <tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Cc:* R Flynn <flynnr2@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Distributor -> Oil Pump Shaft
>
>
>
> UPDATE & some additional questions after a 6 week hiatus for bruised ribs
> to heal ...
>
> - Put car up on stands, dropped oil pan
>
> - No retaining clip to be found on oil pump driveshaft or in pan
>
> (either never there or fractured & came out with a previous oil change
> perhaps)
>
> - New, beefier shaft *with* retaining clip appropriately placed (& new
> gasket) installed
>
> - Buttoned everything back up, distributor straightforward to install now=
,
> found TDC in preparation for retiming, etc.
>
> (FelPro 1 piece oil pan gasket w/snap screws makes things convenient,
> nice bit of design)
>
>
>
> Turned key, and got a big click sounding like starter is under load but
> certainly not spinning ... hence the following questions
>
>
>
> 1) Any suggestions as to cause?
>
> - Battery is fully charged, just came off conditioner
>
> - Solenoid is less than 2Y old
>
> - The starting system electrics were working fine before this adventure
> began
>
>
>
> 2) Is it easier to just pull the oil pan again or get the starter out (vs
> headers)?
>
> - It won't come out with headers & oil pan in situ
>
> - I am working with in up on floor stands, creeper height in a narrow
> garage space
>
> - *Since* I just pulled the oil pan, that seems like the most efficient
> route (and I suspect the FelPro gasket will be fine)
>
> - Plus another gift from the previous builder is a sheared off (small) oi=
l
> pan bolt on the front port corner (just next to the larger end bolt) that=
I
> really should Easy Out, will be easier with oil pan removed (was leaving =
it
> for another day ...)
>
>
>
> 3) Any recommendations on whether one of those "mini starters" would be =
a
> good replacement & easier to get in / out without having to remove engine
> mounts, headers, or oil pans etc?
>
> - DaleA put a Tremec TKO 5 speed in a few years ago for context
>
>
>
> Cheers in advance,
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 19:47, R Flynn <flynnr2@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> In trying to replace the distributor after changing my intake manifold on
> the =E2=80=9865 289 in my Tiger, I am struggling to get it to slide down =
over the
> oil pump shaft, which seems to be leaning over.
>
> - tried jiggling the rotor
>
> - tried turning the crank with a ratchet while applying gentle pressure t=
o
> the distributor, though I was doing both
>
> - tried using a long socket & extension to put the oil pump shaft itself
> in different orientations
>
>
>
> My next attempts will involve
>
> - having someone else push down while I turn the crap with a ratchet
>
> - trying to pack some grease around the shaft with a screwdriver prior to
> inserting the distributor to keep the oil pump shaft more centered
>
>
>
> Would welcome any suggestions, solutions, or words of wisdom.
>
>
>
> Cheers in advance,
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> --
>
> rick
> B9471206: http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/flynn_r/default.asp
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> rick
> B9471206: http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/flynn_r/default.asp
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<div dir=3D"auto">FYI, the part number for the 1 piece oil pan gasket w/sna=
p screws to aid installation is described as =E2=80=9CFord Small-Block V8 2=
89 & 302 (1962 - 1987) on their website is:</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br>=
</div><div dir=3D"auto">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Fel-Pro =E2=80=9COS 13260 T</div><div=
dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">It is available from the usual pl=
aces and worked a treat (a 1965 289 was transplanted in to my Tiger MK1 in =
the distant past by some PO).</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div=
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 3:41 PM Ron Frase=
r <<a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";>rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>> =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=
x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"=
blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div class=3D"m_5109448050572888333WordSection1"><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">Sometimes the starter relay just quits.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I h=
ad the starter relay work fine one day then fail the next day =E2=80=93 the=
y can be fickle.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I hope you have ha=
d luck solving this problem.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u=
>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please relay, to all, the Fel Pro =
part number for the 1 piece oil pan gasket; I=E2=80=99m sure others are int=
erested too.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ron Fraser<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Tigers <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">tigers-boun=
ces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>R Flynn via Tigers<br><b>Sen=
t:</b> Sunday, September 20, 2020 11:09 AM<br><b>To:</b> <<a href=3D"mai=
lto:tigers@Autox.Team.Net" target=3D"_blank">tigers@Autox.Team.Net</a>> =
<<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox=
.team.net</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> R Flynn <<a href=3D"mailto:flynnr2@gmail=
.com" target=3D"_blank">flynnr2@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [T=
igers] Distributor -> Oil Pump Shaft<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.0pt">UPDATE & some additional questions after a 6 week=
hiatus for bruised ribs to heal ...<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></=
div></div><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div class=3D"=
m_5109448050572888333WordSection1"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:12.0pt">- Put car up on stands, dropped oil pan<u></u><u>=
</u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
2.0pt">- No retaining clip to be found on oil pump driveshaft or in pan<u><=
/u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
size:12.0pt">=C2=A0 (either never there or fractured & came out with a =
previous oil change perhaps)<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">- New, beefier shaft *with* re=
taining clip appropriately placed (& new gasket) installed<u></u><u></u=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0=
pt">- Buttoned everything back up, distributor straightforward to install n=
ow, found TDC in preparation for retiming, etc.<u></u><u></u></span></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">=C2=A0 (Fel=
Pro 1 piece oil pan gasket w/snap screws makes things convenient, nice bit =
of design)<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:12.0pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">Turned key, and got a big=
click sounding like starter is under load but certainly not spinning ... h=
ence the following questions<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p=
></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">1) Any =
suggestions as to cause?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">- Battery is fully charged, just c=
ame off conditioner<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">- Solenoid is less than 2Y old<u></u><u=
></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
12.0pt">- The starting system electrics were working fine before this adven=
ture began<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:12.0pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">2) Is it easier to just p=
ull the oil pan again or get the starter out (vs headers)?<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">=
- It won't come out with headers & oil pan in situ<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">=
- I am working with in up on floor stands, creeper height in a narrow garag=
e space<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.0pt">- *Since* I just pulled the oil pan, that seems lik=
e the most efficient route (and I suspect the FelPro gasket will be fine)<u=
></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:12.0pt">- Plus another gift from the previous builder is a sheared o=
ff (small) oil pan bolt on the front port corner (just next to the larger e=
nd bolt) that I really should Easy Out, will be easier with oil pan removed=
(was leaving it for another day ...)<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt=
">3) Any recommendations on whether one of those=C2=A0 "mini starters&=
quot; would be a good replacement & easier to get in / out without havi=
ng to remove engine mounts, headers, or oil pans etc?<u></u><u></u></span><=
/p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">- Dal=
eA put a Tremec TKO 5 speed in a few years ago for context<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt">=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:12.0pt">Cheers in advance,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
/u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12=
.0pt">Rick<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></=
u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at =
19:47, R Flynn <<a href=3D"mailto:flynnr2@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">f=
lynnr2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D=
"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;marg=
in-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">In trying to replace the distributor after changing m=
y intake manifold on the =E2=80=9865 289 in my Tiger, I am struggling to ge=
t it to slide down over the oil pump shaft, which seems to be leaning over.=
<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">- tried jiggling the ro=
tor<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">- tried turning the =
crank with a ratchet while applying gentle pressure to the distributor, tho=
ugh I was doing both<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">- t=
ried using a long socket & extension to put the oil pump shaft itself i=
n different orientations<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">My next attempts=
will involve<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">- having s=
omeone else push down while I turn the crap with a ratchet<u></u><u></u></p=
></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">- trying to pack some grease around the =
shaft with a screwdriver prior to inserting the distributor to keep the oil=
pump shaft more centered<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Would welcome a=
ny suggestions, solutions, or words of wisdom.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal">Cheers in advance,<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Rick<u></u><u></=
u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal">-- <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">rick<br>=
B9471206: <a href=3D"http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/flynn_r/default.a=
sp" target=3D"_blank">http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/flynn_r/default.=
asp</a><u></u><u></u></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b=
r clear=3D"all"><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0=
<u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">-- <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">rick<br>B9471206: <a href=3D"http://www.tigersunited.com/car=
_show/flynn_r/default.asp" target=3D"_blank">http://www.tigersunited.com/ca=
r_show/flynn_r/default.asp</a><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></blockqu=
ote></div></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smar=
tmail=3D"gmail_signature">rick<br>B9471206: <a href=3D"http://www.tigersuni=
ted.com/car_show/flynn_r/default.asp" target=3D"_blank">http://www.tigersun=
ited.com/car_show/flynn_r/default.asp</a></div>
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