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Jim
I think the number per shaft is variable. You have to =
take up the space so the spring is not showing.
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I have 2 donuts + steel washers on the door latch handle and 1 donut on =
my window crank.
=20
In my case it could be that I have a mixture of door parts creating =
this.
=20
Ron Fraser
=20
From: James Armstrong <rollright@aol.com>=20
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 1:54 PM
To: rfraser@bluefrog.com; jbbrown1980@gmail.com
Cc: sunsp22@comcast.net; tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Door project; what I learned
=20
Hello Dr. Fraser,
=20
I'd call it a FELTED material. Many things were made of this stuff back =
in the day.
But regardless, those are the little devils; 2 per door, one on each =
shaft.
=20
Jim Armstrong
Mk 1A 2083
=20
In a message dated 6/19/2020 1:43:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, =
=20
This is a follow up on this subject.
=20
Donuts look like compressed paper to me
=20
OD =3D 1.54=E2=80=9D
ID =3D .486=E2=80=9D
Thickness =3D .39=E2=80=9D 2nd spacer =3D .335=E2=80=9D
=20
Ron Fraser
=20
=20
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net =
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Door project; what I learned
=20
Thanks to everyone for all of this information. I put my doors back =
together about a week ago and realized from this discussion that I left =
out the donuts. I found my old ones but I don't have enough for all of =
the handles and the ones I do have are rough. I don't see them in the =
SS catalog so I may attempt to make some from some masonite or =
something. =20
=20
Can somebody verify what the total thickness of one of the full donuts =
is? One of mine that still looks good measures .33", but it might have =
swollen up over the years.=20
=20
Thanks,
Joe Brown
=20
On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 5:50 PM James Armstrong via Tigers =
Gentlemen,
First off, you are terrific and we are better together. Always.
=20
What I learned:
- both the window crank shaft and the door opening shaft each use two =
(2) felt donuts or four half donuts(4) per door to set up =
proper door panel position and rigidity
- Rick has these in stock if you need them
- the door handle and the window crank have very small rubber =
anti-rattle tubes in the actuator insertion cavity.
Dr. Ron Fraser gave the dimensions, tentatively as; Dimensions - .35? =
x .384? .293? thick=20
- the chrome collar should slide easily into the black plastic collar =
with or without spring. If not, make it so.
- The original fixing pins were tapered so that they could be inserted =
with a positive stop. Almost no-one has these today and new =
ones have been fabricated from nails. Extra assembly effort required but =
OK
- remember to check for anti-rattle padding behind the door flat =
actuating plate that goes from the handle area to the latch and =
travels right over the big window mechanism opening in the door
You'll see traces of old glue where it was. You can use any kind of =
dampener. Prevents a major rattle on door closer/slam
Thanks to all that contributed and lent a hand!
=20
Jim Armstrong
Mk 1A
382002083 LRXFE
Code 86
TAC #....
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Jim<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I think the number per shaft is =
variable.=C2=A0 You have to take up the space so the spring is not =
showing.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I have 2 donuts + steel washers on the door latch =
handle and 1 donut on my window crank.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>In my case =
it could be that I have a mixture of door parts creating =
this.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> =
James Armstrong <rollright@aol.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, June =
19, 2020 1:54 PM<br><b>To:</b> rfraser@bluefrog.com; =
jbbrown1980@gmail.com<br><b>Cc:</b> sunsp22@comcast.net; =
tigers@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Door project; what =
I learned<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Hel=
lo Dr. Fraser,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I'd=
call it a FELTED material. Many things were made of this stuff =
back in the day.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>But=
regardless, those are the little devils; 2 per door, one on each =
shaft.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Jim=
Armstrong<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Mk =
1A 2083<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal>In a message =
dated 6/19/2020 1:43:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, <a =
href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";>rfraser@bluefrog.com</a> writes: =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div =
id=3Dyiv0179606969><div><div><p class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal>This is a =
follow up on this subject.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal>Donuts look like compressed paper to =
me<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal>OD =3D 1.54=E2=80=9D<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal>ID =3D .486=E2=80=9D<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal>Thickness =3D =
.39=E2=80=9D &=
nbsp; 2<sup>nd</sup> spacer =3D =
.335=E2=80=9D<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></strong> Tigers =
<<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net";>tigers-bounces@autox.team.n=
et</a>> <strong><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>On =
Behalf Of </span></strong>Joe Brown<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Sent:</span></strong> =
Saturday, May 30, 2020 11:35 AM<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>To:</span></strong> James =
Armstrong <<a =
href=3D"mailto:rollright@aol.com";>rollright@aol.com</a>><br><strong><s=
pan style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Cc:</span></strong> <a =
href=3D"mailto:sunsp22@comcast.net";>sunsp22@comcast.net</a>; Tigers Den =
<<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br><s=
trong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Subject:</span></strong> Re: =
[Tigers] Door project; what I learned<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal>Thanks to everyone for all of this =
information. I put my doors back together about a week ago and =
realized from this discussion that I left out the donuts. I found my old =
ones but I don't have enough for all of the handles and the ones I do =
have are rough. I don't see them in the SS catalog so I may =
attempt to make some from some masonite or =
something. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal>Can somebody verify what the total =
thickness of one of the full donuts is? One of mine that still =
looks good measures .33", but it might have swollen up over the =
years. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal>Joe Brown<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal>On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 5:50 PM James =
Armstrong via Tigers <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><p class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Gen=
tlemen,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Fir=
st off, you are terrific and we are better together. =
Always.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Wha=
t I learned:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>- =
both the window crank shaft and the door opening shaft each use two (2) =
felt donuts or four half donuts(4) =
per door to set up proper door panel position and =
rigidity</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>- =
Rick has these in stock if you need =
them</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>- =
the door handle and the window crank have very small rubber anti-rattle =
tubes in the actuator insertion cavity.<br> Dr. Ron Fraser =
gave the dimensions, tentatively as; </span><em><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"New =
serif",serif;color:black'>Dimensions - .35? x .384? =
.293? thick</span></em> <span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br=
>- the chrome collar should slide easily into the black plastic collar =
with or without spring. If not, make it =
so.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>- =
The original fixing pins were tapered so that they could be inserted =
with a positive stop. Almost no-one has =
these today and new ones have been fabricated from =
nails. Extra assembly effort required but =
OK</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>- =
remember to check for anti-rattle padding behind the door flat actuating =
plate that goes from the handle area to the =
latch and travels right over the big window mechanism opening in the =
door</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp; You'll see traces of old glue where it was. You can use any =
kind of dampener. Prevents a major rattle on =
door closer/slam</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br=
>Thanks to all that contributed and lent a =
hand!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><div=
><p class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal>Jim =
Armstrong<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal>Mk =
1A<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal>382002083 =
LRXFE<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal>Code =
86<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal>TAC =
#....<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3Dyiv0179606969msonormal =
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