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Hi Jay,
I had suggested Jim contact you due to my correspondence with Steve, the
photo he sent was from the saoca site not from his car.
In my backup hdds somewhere i am confident i have pictures of 2 of the
mystery clocks.. Sadly those drives are a long way from my reach currently.
I do not think early tigers used white hands as rootes had phased those out
during series 3 production.
If anyone has a copy of the alpine/tiger gold portfolio roadtest book handy
look at the tiger road test articles. IIRC the early tiger usa test cars
were black dash and blanking plates.. So probably need to look at the early
UK tests.
MK
On Wed., 6 May 2020, 03:14 Jay Laifman via Tigers, <tigers@autox.team.net>
wrote:
> Here is a link to emails my dad sent about the 3030 clock. I'm wondering
> if he misread the numbers on the clock. Note that he says his 9 and 3 are
> laying down, and that they are red.
>
>
> https://www.sunbeamclub.com/forum/tigers-list-archive.14/sunbeam-clock.67756/
>
>
> *The Sunbeam Tiger Mk I used Smiths CE 3030/00, which is in my car.*
>
> *The 3 and 9 are sideways, and the bottom timing adjust and time*
>
> *set are on the bottom sides, and the hands are red.*
>
> *[Smiths CE 3030/00 Picture]*
>
> *[Smiths CE 3131/01 Picture]*
>
> *In summary, the MkIA and MkII used Smiths CE 3131/01. The 3 and 9 are
> upright, and*
>
> *correct number for your car.*
>
>
> Brian Glenn is reporting that 3131/00 has red hands, and the belief is
> that 3030/00 has white hands. Assuming my dad could easily see that the
> arms were red, as he typed, that would suggest he actually had a 3131/00.
>
> This still doesn't mean that there is no 3030/00 - as Norman also wrote
> that the 3030/00 was used. Or that the earliest Tigers didn't come with
> white hands clocks. But it might just mean my dad misread the numbers on
> the gauge.
>
> Note that his email above went to *Tom Parker* and *Michael King* on
> August 5, 2020 (that was his birthday by the way). So they would have
> received the pictures that are omitted from that post. Do either of you
> guys still have that old email?
>
> Jay
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<div dir=3D"auto">Hi Jay,<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I ha=
d suggested Jim contact you due to my correspondence with Steve, the photo =
he sent was from the saoca site not from his car.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"auto">In my backup hdds somewhere i am confident i have=
pictures of 2 of the mystery clocks..=C2=A0 Sadly those drives are a long =
way from my reach currently.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"a=
uto">I do not think early tigers used white hands as rootes had phased thos=
e out during series 3 production.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">If anyone has a copy of the alpine/tiger gold portfolio roadtest =
book handy look at the tiger road test articles. IIRC the early tiger usa t=
est cars were black dash and blanking plates.. So probably need to look at =
the early UK tests.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">MK=
=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed., 6 May 2020, 03:14 Jay Laif=
man via Tigers, <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.t=
eam.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Here is a link to emails my dad sent about=C2=A0the 3030 clock.=C2=A0 =
I'm wondering if he misread the numbers on the clock.=C2=A0 Note that h=
e says his 9 and 3 are laying down, and that they are red.<div><br></div><d=
iv><a href=3D"https://www.sunbeamclub.com/forum/tigers-list-archive.14/sunb=
eam-clock.67756/" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://www.sunbeamc=
lub.com/forum/tigers-list-archive.14/sunbeam-clock.67756/</a>=C2=A0</div><d=
iv><br></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px=
"><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><span sty=
le=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px"><i>The Sunbeam Tiger Mk I used Smith=
s CE 3030/00, which is in my car.</i></span></blockquote><blockquote style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><i><span style=3D"color:rgb(=
0,0,0);font-size:14px">The 3 and 9 are sideways, and the bottom timing adju=
st and time</span></i></blockquote><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 40px;b=
order:none;padding:0px"><i><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px">=
set are on the bottom sides, and the hands are red.</span></i></blockquote>=
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><i><span st=
yle=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px">[Smiths CE 3030/00 Picture]</span><=
/i></blockquote><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:=
0px"><i><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px">[Smiths CE 3131/01 =
Picture]</span></i></blockquote><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 40px;bord=
er:none;padding:0px"><i><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px">In =
summary, t</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px">he MkIA an=
d MkII used Smiths CE 3131/01. The 3 and 9 are upright, and</span></i></blo=
ckquote><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><di=
v><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px"><i>correct number for you=
r car.</i></span><i>=C2=A0</i></div></blockquote></blockquote><div><i><br><=
/i></div><div>Brian Glenn is reporting that 3131/00 has red hands, and the =
belief is that 3030/00 has white hands.=C2=A0 Assuming my dad could easily =
see that the arms were red, as he typed, that would suggest he actually had=
a 3131/00.</div><div><br></div><div>This still doesn't mean that there=
is no 3030/00 - as Norman also wrote that the 3030/00 was used.=C2=A0 Or t=
hat the earliest Tigers didn't come with white hands clocks.=C2=A0 But =
it might just mean my dad misread the numbers on the gauge.</div><div><br><=
/div><div>Note that his email above went to <b>Tom Parker</b> and <b>Michae=
l King</b> on August 5, 2020 (that was his birthday by the way).=C2=A0 So t=
hey would have received the pictures that are omitted from that post.=C2=A0=
Do either of you guys still have that old email?</div><div><br></div><div>=
Jay</div></div>
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