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Re: [Tigers] Tiger MkI clocks

To: "'Ron Fraser'" <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger MkI clocks
From: Andy Walker via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 19:26:18 -0500
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Will do, Ron=E2=80=A6I=E2=80=99ll let you know if I can find a number.  =
Thanks.

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From: Ron Fraser [mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com]=20
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 6:14 PM
To: 'Andy Walker' <awtiger@cox.net>
Cc: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Tigers] Tiger MkI clocks

=20

Andy

                I=E2=80=99m not up on the clock specifics but you =
probably need to look close past the edge top and bottom to see if a =
number is hiding under the chrome.

=20

Ron Fraser

=20

Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 5:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Tigers] Tiger MkI clocks

=20

Hey, Ron, et al:

=20

With all this original clock talk, I=E2=80=99m now starting to wonder =
what clock I have in my Mk1A.  Out of curiosity, I stepped out to my =
shop and looked at which clock I have.  Mine looks exactly like yours, =
and it also says =E2=80=9CMade in U.K.=E2=80=9D at the bottom of the =
face but it has no model # (such as CE 3131/01, etc.).   Do you have any =
idea what I might have here?  BTW=E2=80=A6 I=E2=80=99m not the original =
owner of my car so I can=E2=80=99t say with any certainty that this =
particular clock is original to the car. =20

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Just curious,

Andy Walker

Edmond, OK

=20

From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron =
Fraser via Tigers
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger MkI clocks

=20

Jim

                I see where the 1229322 is listed as Electric Clock Kit; =
whereas the other Rootes Clock numbers are listed as Electric Clock.  A =
small difference but maybe an important difference.

=20

I don=E2=80=99t know if the wording makes a difference or if maybe the =
1229322 part # may have a Chrysler Pentagon on the packaging.

Small differences should not be ruled out.

=20

My 2 cents

Ron Fraser

=20

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net =
Tigers
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger MkI clocks

=20

I have never seen a 3030/00.  I have owned all the 2194's listed for the =
Alpine.  1Years ago I found a new in box 3131/00 and have purchased  a =
couple of 3131/01.  SAOCA has a listing of Smith's clocks and list =
3030/00 also.  What's strange to me is the Rootes parts books I have =
6601131 2nd issue (MKI) and 6601334 (MKI & MKII) only list one part # =
for Tiger clocks 1229322 which isnt listed on the SAOCA site.  The two =
Rootes special accessories brochures I have, only list the same Rootes =
part # 1229322.

=20

=20

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

=20

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-------- Original message --------

From: Brian Glenn via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net =

Date: 4/26/20 7:17 PM (GMT-05:00)=20


Subject: [Tigers] Tiger MkI clocks=20

=20

I hope you are all well and safe.

=20

I'm putting together an article for CAT Tiger Tales and am having =
difficulty sorting out the correct MkI model Smiths clock.  The BON =
lists a 3030/00 as the appropriate model and what research I've located =
supports this.  Trouble is I can't seem to find a photo of sufficient =
detail where I can read the model number.  I'd greatly appreciate =
pictures of the 3030/00 models where the model number is visible.

=20

In addition, the only photo I did find with all the assigned attributes =
(sideways 3 & 9, red hands, adjustments at 4 & 8, Smiths logo below the =
clock center) is on a Smiths model CE3131/00 (see attached).  So any =
group knowledge with references would be much appreciated

=20

I try to make these articles as accurate as the data allows.

There is enough erroneous data out there already.

Cheers,

Brian

=20

Brian Glenn
P.O. Box 578
Julian, CA 92036-0578
714.345.9883

B9470208LRXFE GT
B9471101LRXFE=20
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link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Will do, =
Ron=E2=80=A6I=E2=80=99ll let you know if I can find a number.=C2=A0 =
Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Ron Fraser =
[mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 27, 2020 =
6:14 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Andy Walker' =
&lt;awtiger@cox.net&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
tigers@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Tigers] Tiger MkI =
clocks<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Andy<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I=E2=80=99m not up on the clock =
specifics but you probably need to look close past the edge top and =
bottom to see if a number is hiding under the chrome.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Andy Walker &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:awtiger@cox.net";>awtiger@cox.net</a>&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> =
Monday, April 27, 2020 5:44 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Ron Fraser' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";>rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>&gt;; =
'jimdamelio' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jimdamelio@verizon.net";>jimdamelio@verizon.net</a>&gt;; =
'Brian Glenn' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:ora_archy@yahoo.com";>ora_archy@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:=
</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Sub=
ject:</b> RE: [Tigers] Tiger MkI clocks<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Hey, Ron, et al:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>With all this original =
clock talk, I=E2=80=99m now starting to wonder what clock I have in my =
Mk1A.&nbsp; Out of curiosity, I stepped out to my shop and looked at =
which clock I have.&nbsp; Mine looks exactly like yours, and it also =
says =E2=80=9CMade in U.K.=E2=80=9D at the bottom of the face but it has =
no model # (such as CE 3131/01, etc.).&nbsp; &nbsp;Do you have any idea =
what I might have here?&nbsp; BTW=E2=80=A6 I=E2=80=99m not the original =
owner of my car so I can=E2=80=99t say with any certainty that this =
particular clock is original to the car.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Just =
curious,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Andy Walker<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Edmond, =
OK<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers [<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:tigers-bounces@autox=
.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Fraser via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Monday, April 27, 2020 3:39 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'jimdamelio' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jimdamelio@verizon.net";>jimdamelio@verizon.net</a>&gt;; =
'Brian Glenn' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:ora_archy@yahoo.com";>ora_archy@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:=
</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@Autox.Team.Net";>tigers@Autox.Team.Net</a><br><b>Sub=
ject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Tiger MkI clocks<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Jim<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I see where the 1229322 is listed as =
Electric Clock Kit; whereas the other Rootes Clock numbers are listed as =
Electric Clock.&nbsp; A small difference but maybe an important =
difference.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I don=E2=80=99t know if the wording makes a difference =
or if maybe the 1229322 part # may have a Chrysler Pentagon on the =
packaging.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Small differences should =
not be ruled out.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>My 2 =
cents<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net";>tigers-bounces@autox.team.n=
et</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>jimdamelio via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Sunday, April 26, 2020 8:14 PM<br><b>To:</b> Brian Glenn &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:ora_archy@yahoo.com";>ora_archy@yahoo.com</a>&gt;; Tigers =
Den &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b=
>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Tiger MkI clocks<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I have =
never seen a 3030/00.&nbsp; I have owned all the 2194's listed for the =
Alpine.&nbsp; 1Years ago I found a new in box 3131/00 and have =
purchased&nbsp; a couple of 3131/01.&nbsp; SAOCA has a listing of =
Smith's clocks and list 3030/00 also.&nbsp; What's strange to me is the =
Rootes parts books I have 6601131 2nd issue (MKI) and 6601334 (MKI &amp; =
MKII) only list one part # for Tiger clocks 1229322 which isnt listed on =
the SAOCA site.&nbsp; The two Rootes special accessories brochures I =
have, only list the same Rootes part # =
1229322.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div =
id=3D"composer_signature"><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.5pt;color:#575757'>Sent from my Samsung Galaxy =
smartphone.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>-------- Original message =
--------<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>From: Brian Glenn via Tigers &lt;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&gt; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>Date: 4/26/20 7:17 PM =
(GMT-05:00) <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>To: Tigers Den &lt;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&gt; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>Subject: [Tigers] Tiger =
MkI clocks <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif'>I hope you =
are all well and safe.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue",serif'>I'm putting together an article for CAT Tiger Tales and am =
having difficulty sorting out the correct MkI model Smiths clock.&nbsp; =
The BON lists a 3030/00 as the appropriate model and what research I've =
located supports this.&nbsp; Trouble is I can't seem to find a photo of =
sufficient detail where I can read the model number.&nbsp; <u>I'd =
greatly appreciate pictures of the 3030/00 models where the model number =
is visible.</u><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue",serif'>In addition, the only photo I did find with all the =
assigned attributes (sideways 3 &amp; 9, red hands, adjustments at 4 =
&amp; 8, Smiths logo below the clock center) is on a Smiths model =
CE3131/00 (see attached).&nbsp; So any group knowledge with references =
would be much appreciated<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue",serif'>I try to make these articles as accurate as the data =
allows.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif'>There is =
enough erroneous data out there =
already.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue",serif'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue",serif'>Brian<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue",serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica =
Neue",serif'>Brian Glenn<br>P.O. Box 578<br>Julian, CA =
92036-0578<br>714.345.9883<br><br>B9470208LRXFE GT<br>B9471101LRXFE =
<br>B9472615LRXFE <br>B382000846LRXFE =
<br>B382001212LRXFE<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>
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