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Evening folks:
I am thinking that most of you might read this as I
have been following the posts regarding Rootes paint codes. Centered
around Code 86, Forest Green, however this applies to most of the paint
they used in the 60's.
I have a RHD Alpine of which I am the second
owner/custodian, it too is paint code 86 and has not been painted. I
noted the discussion about the milky color that Sunbeams seemed to
attained about the time we acquired them. I had shown my 1965 RHD Alpine
to the painter that works on my vintage cars and any newer owns. His
first comment was the paint had faded because it was alkaline based.
This caused the 'milky' look as the paint aged. Painting has progressed
and colors have become more vibrant and true, the GS280 code I used to
restore my 1966 tiger is true to Rootes code 86 as I know the research
that went into to matching it along with the matching paint chip I
personally researched when looking for paint. I know the 2 DuPont reps
that completed the research using old paint charts and codes since they
had them from the 60's. I believe at lease part of the key is the
alkaline based since the fade factor was directly impacted by sunlight,
something that has long since been taken care of by new paint
compositions.
It is good to retain the history of our historic
vehicles.
Jim McLaughlin
B382000175 LRXFE
1965 RHD Alpine
1967
LHD Alpine 35,500 original miles, classic sound!
On 12/29/19, Ron
Fraser via Tigers wrote:
> Chris
> These are all good points. I
started this subject mostly because all the paint codes we have for the
Rootes paints do not compute into today's paint codes.
> The color atlas
at the paint store has over 200 shades of green.
> The CA280 paint code
for Forest Green gives me a starting point for a color mix the paint
store recognizes that may or may not need tweaking for a color match.
>
> I also stated that I would be nice to have a modern paint code for
all the Rootes paint colors so everyone has a starting point to touch up
their paint or more.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Chris Thompson
via Tigers
> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 9:35 PM
> To: Jay Laifman
<jay.laifman@gmail.com>; Gary <garywinblad@comcast.net>
> Cc: Darrell
Mountjoy <dsmtjoy@cox.net>; Tiger's Den <tigers@autox.team.net>
>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Forest green
>
> When I repainted my Lotus
Formula Ford, I painted it Jaguar BRG (and John Deere yellow). It was
very close to the BRG on the Tiger as I received it 30 years ago or so.
I should not have said that none of us got pinged any points - I can't
swear by the others. I can only swear I wasn't pinged any points at the
concours for what I know is not the stock color.
>
> But what my
original point was is that getting touch-up paint for original color
code 86 is not likely to help you as I suspect at this point few green
cars still have this original shade.
>
> B382000331
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<p>Evening folks:</p>
<p>I am thinking that most of you might read this as I have been following =
the posts regarding Rootes paint codes. Centered around Code 86, Fore=
st Green, however this applies to most of the paint they used in the 60's=
=2E </p>
<p>I have a RHD Alpine of which I am the second owner/custodian, it too is =
paint code 86 and has not been painted. I noted the discussion about =
the milky color that Sunbeams seemed to attained about the time we acquired=
them. I had shown my 1965 RHD Alpine to the painter that works on my=
vintage cars and any newer owns. His first comment was the paint had=
faded because it was alkaline based. This caused the 'milky' look as=
the paint aged. Painting has progressed and colors have become more =
vibrant and true, the GS280 code I used to restore my 1966 tiger is true to=
Rootes code 86 as I know the research that went into to matching it along =
with the matching paint chip I personally researched when looking for paint=
=2E I know the 2 DuPont reps that completed the research using old pa=
int charts and codes since they had them from the 60's. I believe at =
lease part of the key is the alkaline based since the fade factor was direc=
tly impacted by sunlight, something that has long since been taken care of =
by new paint compositions.</p>
<p>It is good to retain the history of our historic vehicles.</p>
<p>Jim McLaughlin</p>
<p>B382000175 LRXFE</p>
<p>1965 RHD Alpine</p>
<p>1967 LHD Alpine 35,500 original miles, classic sound!</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<div> </div>
<p>On 12/29/19, Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote:</p>
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<pre>Chris
These are all good points. I started this subject mostly because all
the =
paint codes we have for the Rootes paints do not compute into today's paint=
codes.
The color atlas at the paint store has over 200 shades of green.
The CA280 paint code for Forest Green gives me a starting point for a color=
mix the paint store recognizes that may or may not need tweaking for a col=
or match.
I also stated that I would be nice to have a modern paint code for all the =
Rootes paint colors so everyone has a starting point to touch up their pain=
t or more.
Ron Fraser
-----Original Message-----
From: Tigers <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net";>tigers-bo=
unces@autox.team.net</a>> On Behalf Of Chris Thompson via Tigers
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 9:35 PM
To: Jay Laifman <<a href=3D"mailto:jay.laifman@gmail.com";>jay.laifman@gm=
ail.com</a>>; Gary <<a href=3D"mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net";>garywi=
nblad@comcast.net</a>>
Cc: Darrell Mountjoy <<a href=3D"mailto:dsmtjoy@cox.net";>dsmtjoy@cox.net=
</a>>; Tiger's Den <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@a=
utox.team.net</a>>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Forest green
When I repainted my Lotus Formula Ford, I painted it Jaguar BRG (and John D=
eere yellow). It was very close to the BRG on the Tiger as I received it 3=
0 years ago or so. I should not have said that none of us got pinged any po=
ints - I can't swear by the others. I can only swear I wasn't pinged any p=
oints at the concours for what I know is not the stock color.
But what my original point was is that getting touch-up paint for original =
color code 86 is not likely to help you as I suspect at this point few gree=
n cars still have this original shade.
B382000331
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