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Re: [Tigers] Windshield install Issues (Nothing new, right?)

To: "Armacost, Don Jr." <drarmacost@pmlights.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Windshield install Issues (Nothing new, right?)
From: Gary via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 18:06:23 -0700
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Like Jay said, everybody gets their=20
windshields from the same suppliers.
I am not necessarily a fan of VB but I don=E2=80=99t=20
blame them for my cracked windshield.
I bought 2 on a really cheap close out sale
back in the =E2=80=9890s.  They were VERY well
packed as someone pointed out recently.
Gary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 22, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Armacost, Don Jr. <drarmacost@pmlights.com> w=
rote:
>=20
> I think I told this story earlier but just in case. While restoring a1968 M=
GB-GT it took three windshields from VB to get one to fit. Earlier while res=
toring a1963 MG the first gas tank sending unit leaked on the floor of my ga=
rage. Back to VB for a replacement. In two days the sending unit was again l=
eaking. I told my guys to screw VB and get one from Moss. VB made in China, M=
oss made in UK. No problems with the Moss sending unit years later. Alas VB i=
s in my home town. Still, if there is an option it is always Moss.=20
>=20
> =20
> =20
> Don Armacost Jr
> President -CEO
> Peterson Manufacturing Co.
> 816-765-2000
> drarmacost@pmlights.com
> =20
>=20
> On Jul 22, 2019, at 6:04 PM, Jay Laifman via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net=
> wrote:
>=20
>> FWIW, my story of earlier today was for a windshield from Victoria Britis=
h.  I regretted it and called Rick to beg forgiveness for the error in my wa=
ys.  That's when he told me that he had the same provider on the windshield a=
s everyone else at the time. =20
>>=20
>> That said, I never bought another part from anyone other than Rick after t=
hat.
>>=20
>>=20
>>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 3:49 PM Gary via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> w=
rote:
>>> Stu,=20
>>> It sounds like you are doing it right.
>>> I would pull it out and try again though.
>>> I say that because of the last one I put in.
>>> It was brand new from Vic British OEM XXX.
>>> It seemed to go in fine, trim and all.
>>> But, the first cold night in my not so cold
>>> California, one of the laminations in the lower
>>> corner cracked.  I can only think that I left it
>>> a little too stressed on one side.
>>> Gary=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>=20
>>> On Jul 22, 2019, at 5:21 AM, Stu via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrot=
e:
>>>=20
>>>> We installed the new windshield into the frame this weekend.  Top and b=
ottom seem OK, but on one side we can barely get the gasket over the ridge o=
n the frame.  The other side seemed ok.
>>>>=20
>>>> The frame is off the car, on my bench.  We started by centering the win=
dshield as best we could judge, then started at the top center to lift the g=
asket over the lip, working our way across the top and down the sides.  One s=
ide didn't fit well, but we pressed on, finishing the bottom.   Still the on=
e side just didn't seem right.
>>>>=20
>>>> How did you guys do it?  Start by getting one side in and working acros=
s? Top to bottom?  Bottom to top? =20
>>>>=20
>>>> And a trial fitting of some of the SS trim makes it look like that's go=
ing to be a lot of fun, too.
>>>>=20
>>>> Stu
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Like Jay said, everybody gets their&nbsp;<d=
iv>windshields from the same suppliers.</div><div>I am not necessarily a fan=
 of VB but I don=E2=80=99t&nbsp;</div><div>blame them for my cracked windshi=
eld.</div><div>I bought 2 on a really cheap close out sale</div><div>back in=
 the =E2=80=9890s. &nbsp;They were VERY well</div><div>packed as someone poi=
nted out recently.</div><div>Gary<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D=
"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jul 22, 2019, at 4:46=
 PM, Armacost, Don Jr. &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:drarmacost@pmlights.com";>drarma=
cost@pmlights.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">

<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">


I think I told this story earlier but just in case. While restoring a1968 MG=
B-GT it took three windshields from VB to get one to fit. Earlier while rest=
oring a1963 MG the first gas tank sending unit leaked on the floor of my gar=
age. Back to VB for a replacement.
 In two days the sending unit was again leaking. I told my guys to screw VB a=
nd get one from Moss. VB made in China, Moss made in UK. No problems with th=
e Moss sending unit years later. Alas VB is in my home town. Still, if there=
 is an option it is always Moss.&nbsp;<br>
<br>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style=3D"ba=
ckground-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style=3D"ba=
ckground-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style=3D"ba=
ckground-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Don Armacost Jr<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style=3D"ba=
ckground-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">President -CEO<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style=3D"ba=
ckground-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Peterson Manufacturing Co.<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><font color=3D"#0=
00000"><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><a href=3D"=
tel:816-765-2000" x-apple-data-detectors=3D"true" x-apple-data-detectors-typ=
e=3D"telephone" x-apple-data-detectors-result=3D"0/0">816-765-2000</a><o:p><=
/o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><font color=3D"#0=
00000"><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><a href=3D"=
mailto:drarmacost@pmlights.com";>drarmacost@pmlights.com</a><o:p></o:p></span=
></font></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><o:p style=3D"bac=
kground-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
On Jul 22, 2019, at 6:04 PM, Jay Laifman via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ti=
gers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">FWIW, my story of earlier today was for a windshield from V=
ictoria British.&nbsp; I regretted it and called Rick to beg forgiveness for=
 the error in my ways.&nbsp; That's when he told me that he had the same pro=
vider on the windshield as everyone else
 at the time.&nbsp;&nbsp;
<div><br>
</div>
<div>That said, I never bought another part from anyone other than Rick afte=
r that.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 3:49 PM Gary v=
ia Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l=
eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"auto">Stu,&nbsp;
<div>It sounds like you are doing it right.</div>
<div>I would pull it out and try again though.</div>
<div>I say that because of the last one I put in.</div>
<div>It was brand new from Vic British OEM XXX.</div>
<div>It seemed to go in fine, trim and all.</div>
<div>But, the first cold night in my not so cold</div>
<div>California, one of the laminations in the lower</div>
<div>corner cracked.&nbsp; I can only think that I left it</div>
<div>a little too stressed on one side.</div>
<div>Gary&nbsp;</div>
<div><br>
<br>
<div id=3D"gmail-m_6515958966561759463AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent f=
rom my iPhone</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
On Jul 22, 2019, at 5:21 AM, Stu via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@aut=
ox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">We installed the new w=
indshield into the frame this weekend.&nbsp; Top and bottom seem OK, but on o=
ne side we can barely get the gasket over the ridge on the frame.&nbsp; The o=
ther side seemed ok.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">The frame is off the c=
ar, on my bench.&nbsp; We started by centering the windshield as best we cou=
ld judge, then started at the top center to lift the gasket over the lip, wo=
rking our way across the top and down
 the sides.&nbsp; One side didn't fit well, but we pressed on, finishing the=
 bottom.&nbsp; &nbsp;Still the one side just didn't seem right.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">How did you guys do i=
t?&nbsp; Start by getting one side in and working across? Top to bottom?&nbs=
p; Bottom to top?&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">And a trial fitting o=
f some of the SS trim makes it look like that's going to be a lot of fun, to=
o.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Stu</div>
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