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I'm betting you have more than stock HP.
Regardless, you mention that when you are moving car stays cool, but heats=
up when idling. This seems to indicate that if air is moving through radia=
tor that you can stay cool.=C2=A0 You didn't mention installing an electric=
fan in front of the radiator.=C2=A0 This would give you moving air through=
the radiator even when idling. You can set up with one large fan or 2 smal=
ler ones.=C2=A0 Get a sending unit that will turn them on whenever you want=
.....180 degrees, 190, etc.=C2=A0 Would also ask others what they have done=
to use the stock fan shroud with the Griffin radiator. I think people have=
found the solution for that.=C2=A0 Sounds like you have a solvable problem=
.Mark L.In a message dated 6/18/2019 12:08:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, tig=
ers@autox.team.net writes:
After about a year of struggling with overheating at idle with the hood dow=
n, I took drastic steps.=C2=A0 I have been driving the car during the last =
year only on back roads with no chance of traffic lights.
=C2=A0
=20
- Purchased and installed SS gloss black radiator overflow tank.
- Purchased and installed overflow tank straps from Alexander Washick=C2=
=A0alw6464@gmail.com which are powder coated.
- Purchased and installed undersize water pump pulley from Robert Stragh=
an=C2=A0<rgstraghan@yahoo.ca> scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss black
- Purchased and installed horn hole block plates from Don Lutjen=C2=A0<d=
lutjen55@gmail.com> scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss black.
- Purchased and installed new taller Tiger aluminum cross flow side tank=
radiator from Griffin Radiator.
- Purchased and installed new Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680 painted Fo=
rd dark blue to match engine replacing SS water pump, pressed hub to line u=
p.
- Modified the mechanical fan spacer so that front of fan is 1=E2=80=9D =
from radiator.
- Mechanical fan remains Flex-a-lite 14=E2=80=9D nylon 6 blade fan.
- Purchased and installed new SS lower radiator and overflow to radiator=
hoses.
- New top radiator hose from local source as SS hose would not fit talle=
r radiator.
- New fan belt.
- Purchased and refurbished original Tiger fan shroud which would not fi=
t as I did not want to cut a original shroud top mounting bracket to fit my=
taller radiator.=C2=A0 Stripped, primed and painted used shroud semi gloss=
black =E2=80=93 sitting on shelf.
- Installed 160 degree thermostat.
So at this point I do not have a fan shroud =E2=80=93 unless make up a cust=
om.=C2=A0 Other changes could make is front air dam and block front cross m=
ember to bottom of radiator spacing but for now I am going to see how thing=
s play out this summer.
Results as follows:
Cold start with 86 degree ambient outside temperature =E2=80=93 at idle wit=
h hood closed, car in sun.
5 Minutes engine temperature 174 degrees.
9 Minutes engine temperature 180 degrees.
12 Minutes engine temperature 190 degrees.
14 Minutes engine temperature 195 degrees.
16 Minutes engine temperature 200 degrees.
Run the motor at 1500 rpm=E2=80=99s for 1minute temperature drops to 196 de=
grees.
Run the motor at 2000 rpm=E2=80=99s for another 1minute temperature drops t=
o 194 degrees.
Turn motor off and in a total of 27 minutes from startup - heat soak is 208=
degrees.
All this is recorded from temporary mechanical temperature gauge located un=
der dash.
The car temperature at any speed is at 174 degrees regardless of the outsid=
e ambient temperature from 50=E2=80=99s to mid 90=E2=80=99s.
Whew, maybe at last can enjoy car with a couple of things still outstanding=
to be able to drive it out of town for any distance.=C2=A0 The Tiger=E2=80=
=99s first major outing was at the Sandhills Motoring Festival held in Pine=
hurst NC last month in May =E2=80=93 you can get a glimpse of the cars at:=
=C2=A0 https://www.thepilot.com/gallery/concours-in-the-village/collection_=
d49fdacc-8091-11e9-86df-2b8021a08259.html=C2=A0 You might have to copy and =
paste link into your browser.
Thank you all for putting up with all my inane questions and comments over =
the years.=C2=A0 I am sure there will be more.
Regards
Joel Martin
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
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<div class="userEdit" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;">I'm betting you have more than
stock HP.<br></span></div>
<div class="userEdit" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;"> Regardless, you mention that
when you are moving car stays cool, but heats up when idling. This seems to
indicate that if air is moving through radiator that you can stay cool.
You didn't mention installing an electric fan in front of the radiator.
This would give you moving air through the radiator even when idling. You can
set up with one large fan or 2 smaller ones. Get a sending unit that will
turn them on whenever you want.....180 degrees, 190, etc. Would also ask
others what they have done to use the stock fan shroud with the Griffin
radiator. I think people have found the solution for that. Sounds like
you have a solvable problem.</span></div>
<div class="userEdit" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;">Mark L.</span></div>
<div>In a message dated 6/18/2019 12:08:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,
tigers@autox.team.net writes:</div>
<div><br></div>
<div id="yiv8880091963">
<div>
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york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;">
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<div>After about a year of struggling with overheating at idle with the hood
down, I took drastic steps. I have been driving the car during the last
year only on back roads with no chance of traffic lights.
<p class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"> </p>
<ol style="margin-top: 0in; list-style-position: inside;" start="1" type="1">
<li class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal">Purchased and installed SS gloss
black radiator overflow tank.</li>
<li class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal">Purchased and installed overflow
tank straps from <span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0dfrtlirtlidzssg">Alexander Washick</span><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf"> <a
href="mailto:alw6464@gmail.com"; target="_blank" rel="noopener
noreferrer">alw6464@gmail.com</a> which are powder coated.</span></li>
<li class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Purchased and installed undersize
water pump pulley from </span><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0dfrtlirtlidzssg">Robert Straghan</span><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf"> <rgstraghan@yahoo.ca>
scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss black</span></li>
<li class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Purchased and installed horn hole
block plates from </span><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0dfrtlirtlidzssg">Don Lutjen</span><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf"> <dlutjen55@gmail.com>
scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss black.</span></li>
<li class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Purchased and installed new taller
Tiger aluminum cross flow side tank radiator from Griffin Radiator.</span></li>
<li class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Purchased and installed new Flow
Kooler water pump BRA-1680 painted Ford dark blue to match engine replacing SS
water pump, pressed hub to line up.</span></li>
<li class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Modified the mechanical fan spacer
so that front of fan is 1” from radiator.</span></li>
<li class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Mechanical fan remains Flex-a-lite
14” nylon 6 blade fan.</span></li>
<li class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Purchased and installed new SS lower
radiator and overflow to radiator hoses.</span></li>
<li class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">New top radiator hose from local
source as SS hose would not fit taller radiator.</span></li>
<li class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">New fan belt.</span></li>
<li class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Purchased and refurbished original
Tiger fan shroud which would not fit as I did not want to cut a original shroud
top mounting bracket to fit my taller radiator. Stripped, primed and
painted used shroud semi gloss black – sitting on shelf.</span></li>
<li class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Installed 160 degree
thermostat.</span></li>
</ol>
<p class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">So at this point I do not have a fan
shroud – unless make up a custom. Other changes could make is front
air dam and block front cross member to bottom of radiator spacing but for now
I am going to see how things play out this summer.</span></p>
<p class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Results as follows:</span></p>
<p class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Cold start with 86 degree ambient
outside temperature – at idle with hood closed, car in sun.</span></p>
<p class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">5 Minutes engine temperature 174
degrees.</span></p>
<p class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">9 Minutes engine temperature 180
degrees.</span></p>
<p class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">12 Minutes engine temperature 190
degrees.</span></p>
<p class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">14 Minutes engine temperature 195
degrees.</span></p>
<p class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">16 Minutes engine temperature 200
degrees.</span></p>
<p class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Run the motor at 1500 rpm’s
for 1minute temperature drops to 196 degrees.</span></p>
<p class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Run the motor at 2000 rpm’s
for another 1minute temperature drops to 194 degrees.</span></p>
<p class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Turn motor off and in a total of 27
minutes from startup - heat soak is 208 degrees.</span></p>
<p class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">All this is recorded from temporary
mechanical temperature gauge located under dash.</span></p>
<p class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">The car temperature at any speed is
at 174 degrees regardless of the outside ambient temperature from 50’s to
mid 90’s.</span></p>
<p class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Whew, maybe at last can enjoy car
with a couple of things still outstanding to be able to drive it out of town
for any distance. The Tiger’s first major outing was at the
Sandhills Motoring Festival held in Pinehurst NC last month in May – you
can get a glimpse of the cars at: <a
href="https://www.thepilot.com/gallery/concours-in-the-village/collection_d49fdacc-8091-11e9-86df-2b8021a08259.html";
target="_blank" rel="noopener
noreferrer">https://www.thepilot.com/gallery/concours-in-the-village/collection_d49fdacc-8091-11e9-86df-2b8021a08259.html</a>
You might have to copy and paste link into your browser.</span></p>
<p class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Thank you all for putting up with
all my inane questions and comments over the years. I am sure there will
be more.<br></span></p>
<p class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Regards</span></p>
<p class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf">Joel Martin</span></p>
<p class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf"> </span></p>
<p class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><span
class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0uncz1vrpvf"> </span></p>
<p class="yiv8880091963ydp4ac9ecb0MsoNormal"><br></p>
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