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Re: [Tigers] More Frame questions - with PDF for your viewing

To: "daniel doornbos" <dan_doornbos@hotmail.com>, <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] More Frame questions - with PDF for your viewing
From: Tom Witt via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 07:56:07 -0700
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Not to start a =E2=80=9CTiger Sledgehammer Story 2.0=E2=80=9D but is it =
possible someone went bashing about to make headers fit?  From what I =
saw in the pictures there is no obvious point in the underside of the =
fenders to indicate the front clip was ever replaced. Yet to have gotten =
the frame/inner fenders that damaged likely would have required =
replacing the external sheet metal.  My car did not show that type of =
frame/inner fender damage and yet the front clip =E2=80=9Cbowed=E2=80=9D =
at the peak of the wheel opening from some form of (prior) accident =
requiring replacement. Just throwing a possibility out there in the hope =
that regardless of how it looks, the actual alignment may not be so bad. =
 Measuring between common location mounting points diagonally should =
give you an idea. That said, how accurately were these cars built back =
then???

From: daniel doornbos via Tigers=20
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 10:27 AM
To: tigers@autox.team.net=20
Subject: [Tigers] More Frame questions - with PDF for your viewing

All,  I've taken some better pictures (still not great but hope they =
will do) and put it together in a PPT then to PDF format.  If anyone =
with detailed experience would care to review and provide feedback on =
what I suspect is damage vs. what might actually be stock factory =
construction it would be appreciated.  Also note in last e-mail I called =
out the drivers side but I mixed with the car sitting on it's side.  The =
suspect damage is on the passenger side (or top of the car with it on =
it's side).



I'm trying to get a better opinion because;

  a.. I don't actually know what this should look like

    a..   Is NOTHING wrong?  The crossmember did drop right out of the =
car without any issues.=20
    b..   The passenger wheel does look OK centered in the fender (but =
I've never seen the car at proper ride height with a drive train in it.
  b.. Should passenger/drive be symmetrical? =20

  c.. Do I have it wrong and what I think is a problem in the passenger =
but could the drivers side be wrong?


Also on the last page is a picture of the lower radiator surround.  At =
the passenger side it's only an 1" high and drivers side its almost 3" =
(estimates).  Is this stock?  I don't see an obvious repair or bend here =
but seems very strange that it wouldn't be same height all the way =
across. =20



thanks again

dan



PS.  Hopeing the Autox mail manger correctly strips off the attachment =
and provides a link to it.  Please let me know if it doesn't and I'll =
find a public sharing source.  =20



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is it possible someone=20
went bashing about to make headers fit?&nbsp; From what I saw in the =
pictures=20
there is no obvious point in the underside of the fenders to indicate =
the front=20
clip was ever replaced. Yet to have gotten the frame/inner fenders that =
damaged=20
likely would have required replacing the external sheet metal.&nbsp; My =
car did=20
not show that type of frame/inner fender damage and yet the front clip =
=E2=80=9Cbowed=E2=80=9D=20
at the peak of the wheel opening from some form of (prior) accident =
requiring=20
replacement. Just throwing a possibility out there in the hope that =
regardless=20
of how it looks, the actual alignment may not be so bad.&nbsp; Measuring =
between=20
common location mounting points diagonally should give you an idea. That =
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=3Dtigers@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>daniel doornbos via Tigers</A> =
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 01, 2016 10:27 AM</DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [Tigers] More Frame questions - with PDF for your=20
viewing</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
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<P>All,&nbsp; I've taken some better pictures (still not great but hope =
they=20
will do) and put it together in a PPT then to PDF format.&nbsp; If =
anyone with=20
detailed experience would care to review and provide feedback on what I =
suspect=20
is damage vs. what might actually be stock factory construction it would =
be=20
appreciated.&nbsp; Also note in last e-mail I called out the drivers =
side but I=20
mixed with the car sitting on it's side.&nbsp; The suspect damage is on =
the=20
passenger side (or top of the car with it on it's side).</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>I'm trying to get a better opinion because;</P>
<UL>
  <LI><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I don't actually know what this =
should look=20
  like</SPAN><BR>
  <UL>
    <LI><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp; </SPAN>Is NOTHING =
wrong?&nbsp; The=20
    crossmember did drop right out of the car without any issues.=20
    <LI><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">&nbsp; The passenger wheel does =
look OK=20
    centered in the fender (but I've never seen the car at proper ride =
height=20
    with a drive train</SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> in=20
it.</SPAN></LI></UL>
  <LI><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Should passenger/drive be =
symmetrical?&nbsp;=20
  </SPAN><BR>
  <LI><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Do I have it wrong and what I =
think is a=20
  problem in the passenger but could the drivers side be=20
wrong?</SPAN><BR></LI></UL>
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sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", notocoloremoji, =
"Segoe UI Symbol", "Android Emoji", emojisymbols'></SPAN></P>
<P>Also on the last page is a picture of the lower radiator =
surround.&nbsp; At=20
the passenger side it's only an 1" high and drivers side its almost 3"=20
(estimates).&nbsp; Is this stock?&nbsp; I don't see an obvious repair or =
bend=20
here but seems very strange that it wouldn't be same height all the way=20
across.&nbsp; </P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>thanks again</P>
<P>dan</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>PS.&nbsp; Hopeing the Autox mail manger correctly strips off the =
attachment=20
and provides a link to it.&nbsp; Please let me know if it doesn't and =
I'll find=20
a public sharing source.&nbsp;&nbsp; </P></DIV>
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