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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 14:54:27 -0400
From: Rollright@aol.com
To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] mushy Wilwood brakes
What brake fluid are you running? Is it dot 4 or dot 5
Jim Armstrong
Mk 1A
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 09:33:28 -0500
From: "Jim McLaughlin" <jimmc13@socket.net>
To: "'Rob Hogan'" <robertdhogan@gmail.com>, <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Activity
Rob:
I really like my 10 and 3/4? front brakes, I used this size as I still
have 13 inch wheels. The setup work very well as I have a Wilwood
proportioning valve to adjust front to rear effort to my driving style, or
perhaps
lack of. One problem I have is that I use a 1980 Subaru Brat M/C to gain a
dual chamber master, this has turned out to be the weak link. While I got
plenty of help from Wilwood Tech about setup, when I asked for then to
recommend a dual chamber M/C I have not heard back and it?s been over a year.
I
drive the car fairly regularly, it runs and stops great, brake pedal is
soft on initial press of pedal. Brakes have been bled several times and the
M/C does not leak and no fluid has been lost. I do need a line on a better
Master. The great is quite fast and I would say my stopping confidence for
me driving is about 80 to 85% sat. My son told me the pedal is too mushy
for him. My wife will not drive it yet, so just my oldest son and I have
driven it. So th
is needs
attention. I am still looking.
The actual caliper setup with drums on the rear is awesome for street use
and maybe when a new M/C is fitted something a little more, noting the car
is very fast!
By the way I used Classic tube hard lines for the car except for the M/C
connections in the engine bay to the valve, they are custom bent. I would
use this method again for another Tiger, but it would have to be Midnight
Blue (58)!!!
Jim
From: Rob Hogan [mailto:robertdhogan@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 8:28 AM
To: Jim McLaughlin <jimmc13@socket.net>
Cc: Tiger's List <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Activity
Jim,
Have you had a large amount of driving experience with the front Wilwood
and rear drum brake setup?
I am considering that same brake combination and also whether to convert
the rear brakes to Wilwood disks with Dale's kit.
What I'm trying ta assess is how much better the front only conversion is
in comparison to the stock Tiger brakes and also the full conversion to the
front only Wilwood disks. Any advice on what you may have learned would
be very helpful.
Rob
Rob Hogan
On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 8:22 AM, Jim McLaughlin via Tigers
Tiger listers:
I seem to continue to receive info from you folks. I would offer that as
a former member of facebook, I utilize and appreciate and use this list
almost daily, sometimes even add when I have something to offer.
As for social media, consider this, I closed my facebook account over 2
years ago when they were exposed conducting an experiment posting positive
and negative info to selected facebook members as an unannounced experiment,
really, I personally do not need to be part of this BS nor will I.
Here is the result of your contributions to my restoration effort, a 1966
Mark1(a) Tiger with a modified 260, posit track rear-end, Wilwood front
discs, stock rear drums, a really nice car, oh yes, Martha C. interior.
So thanks and let?s consider this one of the reasons to keep going.
Jim McLaughlin
B382000175LRXFE
P.S. at St Mary?s Aldermanbury (Christopher Wren) in Fulton, MO originally
destroyed during the battle of London in WW2 and given by the people of
the UK to Fulton after Churchill?s Iron Curtain speech.
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Not having received anything frim the Tiger List since may 27th, I sent a
test message to the List and received three responces. One of the
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Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 14:09:52 -0500
From: "James Burruss" <cburruss@wowway.com>
To: <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Facebook? No!
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Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 13:03:23 -0700
From: "Ramon Spontelli" <rspontelli@earthlink.net>
To: <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Resistance is futile...
<< Amend, I also avoid Facebook.>>
I call it Farcebook.
Ramon
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Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 09:17:15 -0400
From: Larry Paulick <lpaulick1@verizon.net>
To: Larry Wright <lwright@impactoffice.com>
Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Resistance is futile...
Amend, I also avoid Facebook.
Larry Paulick
> On Jun 9, 2016, at 7:37 AM, Larry Wright via Tigers
<tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> "From what I can tell Facebook seems to be absorbing lists like this, and
dedicated automotive websites."
>
> Well, I've been avoiding involvement with Facebook for some time, and
would prefer this not to happen for the Tiger community. Not that I'd be
missed...
>
> Larry Wright, Seabrook MD
>
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 13:29:33 -0700
From: David Sosna <sosnaenergyconsulting@cox.net>
To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shelby as Sunbeam Tiger manufacturer?
Hi Jon:
Punctuation seems okay.
Wasn't the Ken Miles prototype a pointy-fin (Series III)?
Best Regards
David Sosna
On 6/10/2016 12:13 AM, J Clark via Tigers wrote:
> Was reading the Tiger Wikipedia and the reference (citing the G.
> Robson book, "Sunbeam Alpine and Tiger- The complete Story")
> to Carroll Shelby's initial desire to build the car. Though I do own a
> copy of this book I must admit that this is news to me.
> Upon reading what Robson wrote, it still left me with a couple of
> questions. Do any of you folks know what Shelby, according to
> Robson, had in mind when he proposed "radical modification of the
> Alpine's structure and chassis"? One wonders how things may
> have played out in the big scheme of things if Rootes had given Shelby
> the gig, rather than Jensen.
>
> Graham Robson also makes reference to some of the prototypes being
> built with SIII body shells. I believe this is hogwash,
> leading me to question the veracity of the rest of the book's contents.
>
> One more thing. Is my punctuation in this text coming through legibly?
>
> Regards,
> Jon
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Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 14:54:27 -0400<br>
From: <a href="mailto:Rollright@aol.com";>Rollright@aol.com</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a><br>
Subject: [Tigers] mushy Wilwood brakes<br>
<br>
What brake fluid are you running? Is it dot 4 or dot 5<br>
<br>
Jim Armstrong<br>
Mk 1A<br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 09:33:28 -0500<br>
From: "Jim McLaughlin" <<a
href="mailto:jimmc13@socket.net";>jimmc13@socket.net</a>><br>
To: "'Rob Hogan'" <<a
href="mailto:robertdhogan@gmail.com";>robertdhogan@gmail.com</a>>, <<a
href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Activity<br>
<br>
Rob:<br>
I really like my 10 and 3/4? front brakes, I used this size as I still <br>
have 13 inch wheels. The setup work very well as I have a Wilwood <br>
proportioning valve to adjust front to rear effort to my driving style, or
perhaps <br>
lack of. One problem I have is that I use a 1980 Subaru Brat M/C to gain a
<br>
dual chamber master, this has turned out to be the weak link. While I got <br>
plenty of help from Wilwood Tech about setup, when I asked for then to <br>
recommend a dual chamber M/C I have not heard back and it?s been over a year.
I <br>
drive the car fairly regularly, it runs and stops great, brake pedal is <br>
soft on initial press of pedal. Brakes have been bled several times and the
<br>
M/C does not leak and no fluid has been lost. I do need a line on a better
<br>
Master. The great is quite fast and I would say my stopping confidence for
<br>
me driving is about 80 to 85% sat. My son told me the pedal is too mushy <br>
for him. My wife will not drive it yet, so just my oldest son and I have <br>
driven it. So th<br>
is needs<br>
attention. I am still looking. <br>
The actual caliper setup with drums on the rear is awesome for street use <br>
and maybe when a new M/C is fitted something a little more, noting the car <br>
is very fast!<br>
By the way I used Classic tube hard lines for the car except for the M/C <br>
connections in the engine bay to the valve, they are custom bent. I would <br>
use this method again for another Tiger, but it would have to be Midnight <br>
Blue (58)!!!<br>
<br>
Jim<br>
<br>
From: Rob Hogan [<a
href="mailto:robertdhogan@gmail.com?";>mailto:robertdhogan@gmail.com</a>] <br>
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 8:28 AM<br>
To: Jim McLaughlin <<a
href="mailto:jimmc13@socket.net";>jimmc13@socket.net</a>><br>
Cc: Tiger's List <<a
href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Activity<br>
<br>
Jim,<br>
<br>
Have you had a large amount of driving experience with the front Wilwood <br>
and rear drum brake setup?<br>
I am considering that same brake combination and also whether to convert <br>
the rear brakes to Wilwood disks with Dale's kit.<br>
What I'm trying ta assess is how much better the front only conversion is <br>
in comparison to the stock Tiger brakes and also the full conversion to the
<br>
front only Wilwood disks. Any advice on what you may have learned would <br>
be very helpful.<br>
<br>
Rob<br>
<br>
<br>
Rob Hogan<br>
<br>
On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 8:22 AM, Jim McLaughlin via Tigers <br>
<<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a> <<a
href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net?";>mailto:tigers@autox.team.net</a>> >
wrote:<br>
Tiger listers:<br>
<br>
I seem to continue to receive info from you folks. I would offer that as <br>
a former member of facebook, I utilize and appreciate and use this list <br>
almost daily, sometimes even add when I have something to offer.<br>
As for social media, consider this, I closed my facebook account over 2 <br>
years ago when they were exposed conducting an experiment posting positive <br>
and negative info to selected facebook members as an unannounced experiment,
<br>
really, I personally do not need to be part of this BS nor will I. <br>
<br>
<br>
Here is the result of your contributions to my restoration effort, a 1966 <br>
Mark1(a) Tiger with a modified 260, posit track rear-end, Wilwood front <br>
discs, stock rear drums, a really nice car, oh yes, Martha C. interior.<br>
So thanks and let?s consider this one of the reasons to keep going.<br>
<br>
Jim McLaughlin<br>
B382000175LRXFE<br>
P.S. at St Mary?s Aldermanbury (Christopher Wren) in Fulton, MO originally <br>
destroyed during the battle of London in WW2 and given by the people of <br>
the UK to Fulton after Churchill?s Iron Curtain speech.<br>
<br>
From: Tigers [<a
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<<a
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] On Behalf Of Norman C. Miller via Tigers<br>
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 10:04 AM<br>
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At 09:38 AM 6/7/2016, Tom Hall via Tigers wrote:<br>
Not having received anything frim the Tiger List since may 27th, I sent a <br>
test message to the List and received three responces. One of the <br>
responders copied the list. I got his responce in my personel mail, but no cc
from <br>
the list. There is nothing from the list in my Comcast spam file! What <br>
gives?<br>
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<< Amend, I also avoid Facebook.>><br>
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Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 09:17:15 -0400<br>
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To: Larry Wright <<a
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Cc: "<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>" <<a
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Resistance is futile...<br>
<br>
Amend, I also avoid Facebook.<br>
<br>
Larry Paulick<br>
> On Jun 9, 2016, at 7:37 AM, Larry Wright via Tigers<br>
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wrote:<br>
> <br>
> "From what I can tell Facebook seems to be absorbing lists like this,
and<br>
dedicated automotive websites."<br>
> <br>
> Well, I've been avoiding involvement with Facebook for some time, and<br>
would prefer this not to happen for the Tiger community. Not that I'd be<br>
missed...<br>
> <br>
> Larry Wright, Seabrook MD<br>
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Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 13:29:33 -0700<br>
From: David Sosna <<a
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To: <a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shelby as Sunbeam Tiger manufacturer?<br>
<br>
Hi Jon:<br>
<br>
Punctuation seems okay.<br>
<br>
Wasn't the Ken Miles prototype a pointy-fin (Series III)?<br>
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Best Regards<br>
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David Sosna<br>
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On 6/10/2016 12:13 AM, J Clark via Tigers wrote:<br>
> Was reading the Tiger Wikipedia and the reference (citing the G. <br>
> Robson book, "Sunbeam Alpine and Tiger- The complete Story")<br>
> to Carroll Shelby's initial desire to build the car. Though I do own a <br>
> copy of this book I must admit that this is news to me.<br>
> Upon reading what Robson wrote, it still left me with a couple of <br>
> questions. Do any of you folks know what Shelby, according to<br>
> Robson, had in mind when he proposed "radical modification of the <br>
> Alpine's structure and chassis"? One wonders how things may<br>
> have played out in the big scheme of things if Rootes had given Shelby <br>
> the gig, rather than Jensen.<br>
><br>
> Graham Robson also makes reference to some of the prototypes being <br>
> built with SIII body shells. I believe this is hogwash,<br>
> leading me to question the veracity of the rest of the book's contents.<br>
><br>
> One more thing. Is my punctuation in this text coming through legibly?<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> Jon<br>
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