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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Interesting carburetor Observation
From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 09:51:57 -0400
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That seems like a fire waiting to happen.
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I would rather have the vapors sucked into the exhaust but there are =
major
challenges with that system too.
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Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: michael king [mailto:michael.s.king@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 9:38 AM
To: Ron Fraser
Cc: Stu; Tiger Talk List Tiger
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Interesting carburetor Observation



Early alpines have an overflow pipe that drops the fuel leftover in the
manifold onto the headers to vaporise off.... I kid you not!!!

On 3 Sep 2015 23:34, "Ron Fraser via Tigers" <tigers@autox.team.net> =
wrote:



Stu=20
    This is an interesting idea that needs some careful thought and
investigation but I see a problem with where do you safely vent the fuel
vapors and fuel.
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The best place would be back to the fuel tanks but I don't think there =
is
enough pressure to do that correctly.
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A charcoal canister might work but I'm not sure it can take more than =
fuel
vapors plus it has to be vented properly to recycle the vapors.
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The best solution would be TBI which does have the correct system for =
fuel
return to the tanks.
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Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Stu via
Tigers
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:19 PM
To: Tiger Net
Subject: [Tigers] Interesting carburetor Observation


As I cruised around a few web sites to scare up a rebuild kit for my =
stock
two barrel, I came across some interesting pictures.   The stock 2 =
barrel
carb is from the "2100" family.  The slightly later but related 2150 =
family
has a significant difference.

I'm suspecting that for one reason or another, fuel came out of the vent =
on
the top of the fuel bowl, boiling, leaky valve, or whatever, and this is
what fueled my recent fire.  The 2150, instead of just having an open =
vent
hole, has a little fitting that was apparently designed to accept a =
hose,
perhaps to drain any overflow to a safe location.

So I'm looking for an extremely low profile right angle fitting...  I'm
thinking aquarium hose size...  That will fit under the stock air =
cleaner...

Any other ideas out there?

Stu


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<DIV><SPAN class=3D281504713-03092015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial>That=20
seems like a fire waiting to happen.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281504713-03092015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281504713-03092015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial>I=20
would rather have the vapors sucked into the exhaust but there are=20
major&nbsp;challenges with that system too.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281504713-03092015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281504713-03092015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial>Ron=20
Fraser</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> michael king=20
  [mailto:michael.s.king@gmail.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September =
03,=20
  2015 9:38 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Ron Fraser<BR><B>Cc:</B> Stu; Tiger Talk =
List=20
  Tiger<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Tigers] Interesting carburetor=20
  Observation<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <P dir=3Dltr>Early alpines have an overflow pipe that drops the fuel =
leftover in=20
  the manifold onto the headers to vaporise off.... I kid you not!!!</P>
  <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On 3 Sep 2015 23:34, "Ron Fraser via Tigers" =
&lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</A>&gt; =
wrote:<BR=20
  type=3D"attribution">
  <BLOCKQUOTE=20
  style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; =
PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"=20
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    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN>Stu =
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; This is=20
    an interesting idea that&nbsp;needs some careful thought and=20
    investigation&nbsp;but I see a problem with where do=20
    you&nbsp;safely&nbsp;vent the fuel vapors and =
fuel.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><SPAN></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN>The best =
place would be=20
    back to the fuel tanks but I don't think there is enough pressure to =
do that=20
    correctly.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><SPAN></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN>A charcoal =
canister might=20
    work but I'm not sure it can take more than fuel vapors plus it has =
to be=20
    vented properly to recycle the vapors.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><SPAN></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN>The best =
solution would be=20
    TBI which does have the correct system for fuel return to the=20
    tanks.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><SPAN></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 face=3DArial><SPAN>Ron=20
    Fraser</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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      <DIV dir=3Dltr lang=3Den-us align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma>-----Original=20
      Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Tigers [mailto:<A=20
      href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"=20
      target=3D_blank>tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</A>] <B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Stu=20
      via Tigers<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:19=20
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      carburetor Observation<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV dir=3Dltr>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small" class=3Dgmail_default>As I cruised =
around a=20
      few web sites to scare up a rebuild kit for my stock two barrel, I =
came=20
      across some interesting pictures. &nbsp; The stock 2 barrel carb =
is from=20
      the "2100" family.&nbsp; The slightly later but related 2150 =
family has a=20
      significant difference.</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small" class=3Dgmail_default><BR></DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small" class=3Dgmail_default>I'm =
suspecting that for=20
      one reason or another, fuel came out of the vent on the top of the =
fuel=20
      bowl, boiling, leaky valve, or whatever, and this is what fueled =
my recent=20
      fire.&nbsp; The 2150, instead of just having an open vent hole, =
has a=20
      little fitting that was apparently designed to accept a hose, =
perhaps to=20
      drain any overflow to a safe location.</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small" class=3Dgmail_default><BR></DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small" class=3Dgmail_default>So I'm =
looking for an=20
      extremely low profile right angle fitting...&nbsp; I'm thinking =
aquarium=20
      hose size...&nbsp; That will fit under the stock air =
cleaner...</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small" class=3Dgmail_default><BR></DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small" class=3Dgmail_default>Any other =
ideas out=20
      there?</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small" class=3Dgmail_default><BR></DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small"=20
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