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Re: [Tigers] Stock oil filter set up leaks

To: "rfraser@bluefrog.com" <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Stock oil filter set up leaks
From: Stu via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 10:09:46 -0400
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I ended up making my own 6 point wrench for the large "nut" out of a thick
aluminum sheet.  I traced the nut onto the sheet then cut and filed it out
until it was a tight fit.  I used it a couple times before I gave up on the
original setup and switched to the Motorsports right angle adapter.

Stu

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <
tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Andy
>
> The fittings should tighten and not leak.
>
> You should check to make sure you have not split or cut the washers.
> Check to make sure the metal surfaces are flat for the gaskets.
> You should also check the big bolt at top is not bottoming out too soon.
> Install it without the washer to make sure it does not stop short of the
> metal adaptor.
>
> I believe those are fiber washers; maybe copper washers would work
> better.(?)
>
> 1.410" =3D 35.8 mm
>
> A 38 mm socket  may work OK.
>
> The correct wrenches would be line wrenches or crowfoot line wrenches.
> You would have to make your own 1.41" wrench.  Do you know anyone with a
> water jet cutter?
>
> A water jet or laser cutting machine could make a special tool to fit thi=
s
> job.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Andy
> Walker via Tigers
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 29, 2015 11:26 PM
> *To:* tigers@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Stock oil filter set up leaks
>
> Hey, guys:
>
>
>
> First, the good news=E2=80=A6I=E2=80=99ve got 60 lbs of pressure on the g=
auge when I spin
> up my oil pump with my electric drill.  For a stock oil pump, that=E2=80=
=99s
> great!!  That means that when I fire up my Tiger for the first time on
> Sunday (hopefully=E2=80=A6) that I should have oil pressure running out m=
y
> ears=E2=80=A6which leads me to the bad news.  I=E2=80=99ve got a couple o=
f oil leaks in the
> stock oil filter set-up, one of which is pretty bad.  The bad one is at t=
he
> connection on top of the oil filter where the big bolt is that holds the
> filter to the housing.  The gasket is allowing the oil to just run out at=
 a
> pretty good clip.  I=E2=80=99ve got that bolt twisted down pretty tightly=
 but it
> continues to leak.  This is the first time that I=E2=80=99ve ever had an =
original
> oil filter set-up on a Tiger, so I=E2=80=99m unfamiliar with their odditi=
es; are
> you supposed to use some sort of gasket sealer on that gasket between the
> shoulders of the bolt and the housing?  Is this a common problem with the=
se
> stock filter rigs?
>
>
>
> The other leak is at the connection point between the short hose and the
> block adapter.  Hopefully, I=E2=80=99ll be able to tighten it up a bit an=
d stop the
> leak, but the leak I mentioned above is so bad that there is no way that =
I
> can start the car before fixing it.  Any advice on how to properly seal
> that would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> Oh, and by the way, I don=E2=80=99t have a proper-sized wrench for the oi=
l filter
> bolt in question.  I mic=E2=80=99d it as best I could and it comes out to=
 be
> something like a 1.410=E2=80=9D in size.  All I=E2=80=99ve got that is bi=
g enough to do the
> job is an adjustable wrench, and even that is so long that I have to stan=
d
> it up and grab the shoulders of the bolt with the ends of the jaws of the
> wrench.  What do you guys use on yours?
>
>
>
> Thanks much,
>
> Andy Walker
>
> Edmond, OK
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">I e=
nded up making my own 6 point wrench for the large &quot;nut&quot; out of a=
 thick aluminum sheet.=C2=A0 I traced the nut onto the sheet then cut and f=
iled it out until it was a tight fit.=C2=A0 I used it a couple times before=
 I gave up on the original setup and switched to the Motorsports right angl=
e adapter.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small=
"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Stu</div=
></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Ju=
l 30, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>







<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"#0563c1" vlink=3D"#954f72">
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>Andy</span></f=
ont></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
=C2=A0</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>The=20
fittings should tighten and not leak.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
=C2=A0</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>You=20
should check to make sure you have not split or cut the=20
washers.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>Check=20
to make sure the metal surfaces are flat for the gaskets.</span></font></di=
v>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>You=20
should also check the big bolt at top=C2=A0is not bottoming out too=20
soon.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Install it without the washer to make sure it does not st=
op=20
short of the metal adaptor.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
=C2=A0</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>I=20
believe those are fiber washers; maybe copper washers would work=20
better.(?)</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
=C2=A0</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>1.410&quot;=20
=3D 35.8 mm</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
=C2=A0</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>A 38=20
mm=C2=A0socket=C2=A0 may work OK.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
=C2=A0</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>The=20
correct wrenches would be line wrenches or crowfoot line=20
wrenches.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>You=20
would have to make your own 1.41&quot; wrench.=C2=A0 Do you know anyone wit=
h a water=20
jet cutter?</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
=C2=A0</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>A=20
water jet or laser cutting machine could make a special tool to fit this=20
job.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
=C2=A0</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>Ron=20
Fraser</span></font></div>
<blockquote style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT:0px" dir=3D"ltr">
  <div></div>
  <div dir=3D"ltr" lang=3D"en-us" align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"T=
ahoma">-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> Tigers=20
  [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank=
">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andy Walker via=20
  Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 29, 2015 11:26 PM<br><b>To:</b>=20
  <a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.t=
eam.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Stock oil filter set up=20
  leaks<br><br></font></div>
  <div>
  <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hey, guys:<u></u><u></u></p>
  <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
  <p class=3D"MsoNormal">First, the good news=E2=80=A6I=E2=80=99ve got 60 l=
bs of pressure on the=20
  gauge when I spin up my oil pump with my electric drill.=C2=A0 For a stoc=
k oil=20
  pump, that=E2=80=99s great!!=C2=A0 That means that when I fire up my Tige=
r for the=20
  first time on Sunday (hopefully=E2=80=A6) that I should have oil pressure=
 running out=20
  my ears=E2=80=A6which leads me to the bad news.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ve got a =
couple of oil leaks=20
  in the stock oil filter set-up, one of which is pretty bad.=C2=A0 The bad=
 one=20
  is at the connection on top of the oil filter where the big bolt is that =
holds=20
  the filter to the housing.=C2=A0 The gasket is allowing the oil to just r=
un=20
  out at a pretty good clip.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ve got that bolt twisted down =
pretty=20
  tightly but it continues to leak.=C2=A0 This is the first time that I=E2=
=80=99ve ever=20
  had an original oil filter set-up on a Tiger, so I=E2=80=99m unfamiliar w=
ith their=20
  oddities; are you supposed to use some sort of gasket sealer on that gask=
et=20
  between the shoulders of the bolt and the housing?=C2=A0 Is this a common=
=20
  problem with these stock filter rigs?<u></u><u></u></p>
  <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
  <p class=3D"MsoNormal">The other leak is at the connection point between =
the short=20
  hose and the block adapter.=C2=A0 Hopefully, I=E2=80=99ll be able to tigh=
ten it up a=20
  bit and stop the leak, but the leak I mentioned above is so bad that ther=
e is=20
  no way that I can start the car before fixing it.=C2=A0 Any advice on how=
 to=20
  properly seal that would be greatly appreciated.<u></u><u></u></p>
  <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
  <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Oh, and by the way, I don=E2=80=99t have a proper-=
sized wrench for=20
  the oil filter bolt in question.=C2=A0 I mic=E2=80=99d it as best I could=
 and it comes=20
  out to be something like a 1.410=E2=80=9D in size.=C2=A0 All I=E2=80=99ve=
 got that is big=20
  enough to do the job is an adjustable wrench, and even that is so long th=
at I=20
  have to stand it up and grab the shoulders of the bolt with the ends of t=
he=20
  jaws of the wrench.=C2=A0 What do you guys use on yours?<u></u><u></u></p=
>
  <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
  <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks much,<u></u><u></u></p>
  <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Andy Walker<u></u><u></u></p>
  <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Edmond, OK<u></u><u></u></p></div></blockquote></d=
iv>
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