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Re: [Tigers] 2014 Worlds Fastest Sunbeam Motor Candidate

To: "michael@michaelshortt.com" <michael@michaelshortt.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] 2014 Worlds Fastest Sunbeam Motor Candidate
From: Cullen1972 <cmccann1972@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 09:17:34 -0500
Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" <tigers@autox.team.net>
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References: <520D022D.4000602@mayfco.com> <26805228D183EF4E9C6F4499BB55B05147D000E3@CINMBCNA10.e2k.ad.ge.com> <CAEWtxWr0T6SZ54R8r=OnDrgqwKPhNw6_YmEDWeQdZKj+bCt_HA@mail.gmail.com>
I believe there are three of those shoguns total, and one of the guys
responsible for the prototype is a buddy of mine, lives around the corner for
me here in Yukon ok. Local shelby enthusiast as well. I might be able to pick
his brain about it a little. Let me see what he recalls.

Cullen


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On Aug 15, 2013, at 2:45 PM, "michael@michaelshortt.com"
<michaelsavga@gmail.com> wrote:

> Jay Leno has one attached to a Transaxle in the back seat of a Ford
> Festevia(sp), it was called a Shogun. Very Limited Production, looks a bit
> like a Renault R5.
>
> Michael Shortt
> On Aug 15, 2013 2:59 PM, "Rense, Mark (GE, Appl & Light)"
<mark.rense@ge.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Ah, SHO Taurus, my green 1991 was the only car I have ever owned that was
>> bought back under our state's Lemon Law. Great engine, everything attached
>> to
>> it was a POS. Be aware that the later automatic cars ('92 - on?) were 3.2
>> liter, you need to find a manual tranny version to stay under that magical
>> 3.0
>> liter bogie.
>>
>> As a side note I bought a '96 SHO 3.4 liter V-8 engine, also a 60 degree
>> layout, out of a low mileage junker several years ago to use as a
potential
>> engine swap into something small and Miata-like. Did not know at the time
>> about the cam sprocket loosening issues, this engine had fallen victim and
>> most of the valves were tweeked so it became a nice piece of scrap metal.
>> It
>> was a neat little engine, too bad.
>>
>> Here's a '89 SHO 3.0 liter in Vegas:
>>
>>
http://www.automotix.net/usedengines/1989-ford-taurus-inventory.html?fit_note
>> s=7a834fbaf84c4cf74707388f1af6a757&seq_num=3
>>
>> And a Depends-load of '91 3.0 automatics around the country:
>>
>>
http://www.automotix.net/usedengines/1991-ford-taurus-inventory.html?fit_note
>> s=53018f94eded282c47f29ae44a6e472d&seq_num=2
>>
>> Good hunting!
>>
>> Bugz
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Larry Mayfield
>> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 12:31 PM
>> To: tigers@autox.team.net
>> Subject: [Tigers] 2014 Worlds Fastest Sunbeam Motor Candidate
>>
>> Ok, so  a few weeks ago, I asked about alternative motors for the WFS
>> version
>> 2014.  I received a plethora of suggestions (don't you just love that
>> word!)
>> and some ver pretty dang good. But, while surfing this morning I
>> remembered a
>> motor that may fit the bill better and has some performance parts support.
>> That is the 1988 SHO V6 which produced good power, over 200, and can be
>> mounted longitudinally.  It shares a bell housing pattern with the Vulcan
>> V6
>> motor. And is it just under 3 litres displacement and conveniently uses
the
>> EEC IV efi system and it might be cheaper than the national debt.  It is a
>> DOHC motor but with a 60 degree bank angle so it will likely fit. And
>> although
>> it is a Yamaha, if comes from Ford so falls in my list of druthers for
Ford
>> stuff.
>>
>> The trick now, is to find one that  can be bought complete for a song or
at
>> least a loud yodel.  Anybody have a clue as to where I might start looking
>> for
>> one or two of them?  Might even turn out to be a good transplant for
>> either a
>> Tiger or Alpine... Of course, a manual trans version would be lovely also
>> as I
>> am tired of wrestling with my AOD trans good as it is... it is large....
>>
>> And I have thought of stretching the wheel base for next time... 130
>> inches vs
>> 90 sure seems better for salt racing stability.
>>
>> Went to the salt, Mon, Tues and yesterday for a look see. Salt is poor.
>> very bumpy, lots of soft spots and more spin outs in the day and a half I
>> was
>> there that most of the meets I have been to combined! Lots of broken
motors
>> and car parts. If it does not rain and smooth things out, it will be a
>> tough
>> go.  On a side note, my new F350 King Ranch Dually tow truck was a
>> marvel..once even hit 95 mph, ahem, passing a big truck....  and still got
>> 16.7 overall mpg up and back and around town....
>>
>> shoot me considerations for the SHO motor, 1988 specific and a manual
trans
>> set up for same....
>>
>> mayf
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