if one "dips" their body to restore their tiger (some my say one of the two
best ways to strip it right before a proper restoration), the vin plate must
come off, so in that instance you wont have the "correct" rivets, so
personally if i have to choose a half-assed restoration with original rivets,
or a proper restoration with the vin plate re-riveted, id choose the later,
but just a personal view (as long as i was otherwise confident it was a
tiger).
On May 18, 2012, at 7:04 AM, Tony Somebody wrote:
> Norm- whats your response (answer) as I and others are interested as well?
> Tell us all as I have kind of an idea BUT you are our uneleected- sorta
self
> appointed Mr. Sunbeam Tiger person amonget anyone to ask a question of.
> Thanks and with respect.
> Tony Lang (TtT)
>
> --- On Thu, 5/17/12, Dave Munroe <dave@munroe.ca> wrote:
>
>
> From: Dave Munroe <dave@munroe.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] TOTALLY RESTORED
> To: tigers@autox.team.net, "Norman C. Miller" <rootes1@earthlink.net>
> Date: Thursday, May 17, 2012, 1:37 PM
>
>
> Hi Norm:
>
> This is an important point - why WOULD any knowledgeable person pay this
much
> money for this VIN plate with a Tiger (?) attached? The key word here is
> "knowledgeable".
>
> I was not "Tiger knowledgeable" when I bought my car in 2002, and didn't
know
> the importance of a correct, in position with the right rivets, VIN plate,
to
> its provenance. My bad, even stupid, I accept.
>
> However, over time, and with the help of the intelligence available from
the
> members of this list, and with the help of an expensive eBay copy of the
"Book
> of Norman", I became much more aware of this detail. I also became
convinced
> of the authenticity of my particular Tiger.
>
> This was confirmed when I had my car TAC'd at the TE/AE Annual gathering in
> Rockland, Maine in 2010. A gang of five inspectors swarmed over, under,
inside
> and around my car for the better part of an hour, and became convinced of
my
> car's origin as a Tiger from the Jenson plant. It passed, without a VIN
> plate.
>
> I also had the interesting opportunity at that time to meet the person who
> "restored" my Tiger back in 1986-88 for the previous owner, and asked him
> about the missing VIN plate. I got a shrug and a question mark hanging over
> his head. I wonder where it went??
>
> So here I am with a TAC'd Tiger and no VIN plate. What are my options?
>
> 1/ Make a replacement as authentic as possible and hope no one notices.
(Bad
> idea because it has as its basis an attempt to deceive the observer.
Discovery
> leads to suspicion that the car is a fake.)
> 2/ Leave it off and explain the circumstances to a prospective buyer. (Good
> option but guaranteed to reduce the value of your car to a knowledgeable
> potential buyer.)
> 3/ Make a nice but obvious replacement that will also trigger some doubt as
to
> the authenticity of the car to a potential buyer, but leaves you with the
> opportunity to explain its presence.)
>
> The obvious lesson here is that if you have a Tiger without an authentic
VIN
> plate, your car is worth less than if it had one, regardless of its
condition.
> Know this if you are buying and negotiate the price accordingly. Know this
> also if you are selling and react according to your conscience. If you
believe
> "caveat emptor", and can sleep at night after deceiving an unsuspecting
buyer
> with a fake VIN plate, good luck to you. If not, bite the bullet and do the
> right thing.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman C. Miller"
<rootes1@earthlink.net>
> To: <tigers@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:06 PM
> Subject: [Tigers] TOTALLY RESTORED
>
>
>> Would you pay $63,000 for a Tiger with this chassis plate?
>>
>>
>
https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=b63ea59c60ac1d44#cid=B63EA59C60AC1D44&id=B63EA
> 59C60AC1D44%21384
>>
>>
>> Norm
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