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Re: [Tigers] Dimensions of Water pump for 289

To: rfraser@bluefrog.com, 'MAURO D'ANGELO' <m_dangelo@verizon.net>,
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dimensions of Water pump for 289
From: Dave Munroe <dave@munroe.ca>
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 11:36:15 -0300
Ron and all;

Correct after-market water pumps for the Tiger, (Rick's at SS 
notwithstanding) are difficult to source. There are many advertised for 
1964-69 289 +++ SBF, but their advertised pump mounting surface to fan 
mounting dimensions are all over the map.

Beyond the importance of correctly aligning the pulleys, the distance from 
the pump mounting surface to the oversize rad I have fitted is 6". Pump 
suppliers do not advertise the overall dimension from the pump mounting 
surface to the end of the pump shaft. Many of the pumps advertised for our 
engines are actually longer than 6" ! So for sure they won't fit on my car.

The only pump I could find that was close to the original pump dimensions 
was the Stewart Stage 1 #16103 which is an alloy pump w/o a rear cover. It 
shows the pump mounting surface to fan flange surface at 5.09", which 
matches with the "Sunbeam Survivor" dimensions. (5.1") The only problem is 
the shaft is 3/8" longer than stock. I have ordered one of these pumps with 
the plan of shortening the shaft to the original pump dimensions.

My original pump is the one with the dreaded pressed steel impeller. Since I 
have my engine out now, it seemed a good time to replace it with a more 
modern, efficient pump. This Stewart pump has a 3/4" ball bearing, and a 
high flow impeller. Just what the doctor ordered.

Nothing is simple with these cars.

Dave


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Fraser" <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
 April 17, 2010 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dimensions of Water pump for 289


 Mauro
 The distance from the pump face to the hub is Tiger specific.   See the
 Shop Manual then check your pump.     Please note the numbers for this
 distance are NOT correct in the Manual, so check your pump.   Also check
 that when the pump is on the engine that the fan belt is straight between
 all the pulleys.   This is another indication that you have the original
 parts or at least the right distance.

 Distance in the Manual    260    5.15"       289     5.43"
 Correct Numbers                      4.875"               5.1"

 The source of the correct numbers is  "The Sunbeam Survivor"  from TE/AE.

 I encourage everyone to check the pulley alignment on their Tiger.
 This tells you whether or not someone has replaced parts and knew what they
 were doing or if anything else might have been changed.  2nd - you know the
 water pump hub is in the correct position or not; you can rebuild your 
water
 pump or buy a new one and put the hub to the correct distance.  See the 
Shop
 Manual about measuring the distance.   Note; the water pump hub B9ME-8553-A
 could be a unique Tiger part.

 Ron Fraser
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