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Re: [Tigers] Risky Business

To: Tom Hall <modtiger@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Risky Business
From: MAURO D'ANGELO <m_dangelo@verizon.net>
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 18:23:18 -0400
Tom, 

First of all, I would like for you to know that I was not singling you out
at all.  I also was not saying that those with experience should not let
people know where the car's shortcomings are.  I used to be the fleet
manager of an airline (years ago), so I happen to be highly attuned to the
notion of safety and preventive maintenance. What I am saying is quite
simple:  I do not think it is at all helpful to scare people with stories of
getting their feet buzz sawed off by their flywheels -- unless you specify
that you are talking about cars that are being raced.  My point -- and I
really do not think you can argue with me on it -- is that for the most
part, cars being driven on the street are probably not candidates for self
destruction.  Thank you.  Mauro


On 4/16/10 1:00 PM, "Tom Hall" <modtiger@comcast.net> wrote:

> At 07:21 AM 4/16/2010, you wrote:
>> ... I'm truly surprised that all you engineers do not understand how
>> damaging this is to the reputation of this car.
>> 
>> ... What's more surprising is that no one is saying that these
>> problems are not only tied to our cool Tigers, but to all or most
>> classic cars of the era, to include Cobras and other highly sought
>> muscle cars.  But go to a Mustang or Cobra forum and you won't find
>> these dire warnings of impending doom.  Let's try to at least put
>> strong caveats above our warnings.  Right?
>> 
>> Mauro
> 
> Let me get this straight,  You think it's advisable, to advance the
> reputation of the marque, that those of us with historic
> understanding of certain design limitations and or possible
> shortcomings, should remain silent on these subjects.  I think that
> Toyota is currently proving that this direction is not the best
> alternative.  Most of us "engineers" have recognized and discussed
> these risk situations and are advising that mitigating them requires
> some action on the part of owners that for the most part, request the
> help and advice from the list.
> 
> Relative "Risk" is a very personal interpretation.  If you ask for
> advise and I scare you with stories of component failure, and you buy
> my Chassis Reinforcement Kit to strengthen your frame, or you direct
> your restoration to replace components that have been historically
> subject to cyclic fatigue failures, have I helped you or hurt you?
> 
> Do you smoke?  Can you believe that anyone, given the state of
> knowledge of that risk, would ever even consider smoking?  How do
> they even manage to sell cigarettes?
> 
> As a Professional Engineer, I consider that advising fellow Tiger
> owners of risk factors that I have historical, direct or even
> peripheral and specific knowledge of, to be my social
> responsibility.  Same goes for "authenticity".  If my TAC activities
> keep you from buying a car that was not manufactured as a Tiger by
> Rootes, I'm also reducing your risk factor, even if it is simply
> financial.  You have to judge your own level of acceptable
> risk.  Asking other to remain silent or severely muted, is not really
> helpful in my opinion.  Anyone driving a 40 year old car has a much
> different perspective on driving safety than the general
> public.  Most of the contributors on this list are simply trying to
> share their enjoyment and help others enjoy their Tigers to the
> fullest while acknowledging certain common problems.
> 
> 
> Tom Hall
> ModTiger Engineering LLC
> www.tigerengineering.net
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