indeed, but that may be considered worth while if that energy is
produced in a central location and using an environmentally efficient
means. this loss can also be recouped if the new engine is more
efficient than a traditional petrol engine.
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 4:58 PM, William Lau <mrlau@charter.net> wrote:
> What isn't mentioned is that it takes more energy to get the hydrogen than
> you get. -- Bill --
>
> Not that far off the mark. The use of water for hydrolysis requires
> reasonably high purity, and preferably a bit of H2SO4 to help the
> conductivity along. If you just used tap water, you'd be descaling your
> hydrolysis equipment pretty often. So you have to buy your fuel-water
> over the counter.
>
> The reason that ethanol-from-corn was touted in the US as the answer to
> cheap fuel, was that corn was relatively cheap. Now that a significant
> fraction of corn production is going into ethanol plants instead of
> being exported as food, the price of corn has gone up to the point where
> people can't afford to buy it to eat.
>
> Theo
>
> i wouldn't normally bring it up, but what a stupid comment by the
> presenter with the shaky grasp of economics right at the end: 'lets
> hope water prices don't go up'.
>
> hmm....
>
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Smit, Theo <Theo.Smit@dynastream.com>
> wrote:
> > Here's a link:
> > <http://travisab1.multiply.com/video/item/75>
> >
> > Water, as used in this context, is not the "fuel". He's using
> > electricity to dissociate the water into hydrogen and oxygen gas (or
> > maybe a partial hydrolysis to hydrogen and hydroxide ions) and then
> > recombining the gases in his torch (or in his car), which turns the
> > electrical energy into heat (and, judging by the tone of the article,
> > smoke and mirrors).
> >
> > The energy is provided by the electrical plant that provided the
> power
> > to run his electrolysis machine. That's going to be coal-fired,
> > hydroelectric, nuclear, or in the case of his car, a gasoline powered
> > internal combustion engine.
> >
> > Theo
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