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Re: National Sunbeam Club

To: Tom Hall <modtiger@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: National Sunbeam Club
From: sosnaenergyconsulting <sosnaenergyconsulting@cox.net>
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:00:29 -0800
Hi Tom:
I hadn't known about the history of previous attempts to create a 
national  Tiger club.  Thank you for clarifying what was, to me, a 
rather murky past.
According to an authoritative source (Calvin and Hobbes--grin), Tigers 
are by nature solitary and territorial.  Some of the Tiger owners I've 
met (myself included) seem to fit this profile--perhaps that's why we 
buy the cars in the first place?
I have noticed that Tiger owners I've met seem to be willing to 
personalize their cars, and to do much of the work themselves--can't 
speak for Shelby guys, since I don't know any--perhaps they're the same 
as the Tiger guys, but the two attributes I mention above seem to fit in 
with 'solitary and territorial'......

I was re-reading an article from Car and Driver  (May 1990) about Tigers 
in attendance at SUNI at Snowmass where the author mentioned that "90 
percent sported at least minimal modifications" (and usually, according 
to the article, more).
Maybe the Shelby guys put cooling vents, rear disc brakes, fuel 
injection and independent rear suspensions on their cars too--if some of 
you are Shelby guys or know some Shelby guys you could speak to this 
point, but what I think grabbed me most about the article was the following:
"The happy fact is that typical Sunbeam Tiger owners are still 
enthusiasts, still hobbyists for whom the car itself is it's own 
reward.  They understand and appreciate that Sunbeam, unlike some of the 
more pretentious marques, never claimed to have achieved perfection on 
the drawing boards.  All during the model's short life, the factory 
itself was experimenting with improvements...in truth, the Tiger was a 
hot rod from day one.  That's why owners...feel that intelligent 
departures from original specifications are only continuing the good 
work.  SUNI itself condones change."

Anyway, it seems to me that people with the attitudes described in the 
excerpt above are a bit iconoclastic, and perhaps not inclined to be 
"joiners".  Not knocking joining, just suggesting that based on the 
history that Tom described, perhaps an explanation for why things stay 
fragmented.

I thought your points were very well made Tom.

One other thing that struck me from the article: "...Tiger types are 
into the marque because they appreciate the cars, not because the cars 
are appreciating.  These people are ordinary, everyday, scraped-knuckle 
car nuts."  That seems to describe a lot of the guys I've met on the 
list--you just like to mess with your cars and you want to make them a 
little bit better.  And that's one of the things I appreciate most--more 
than the tech tips and help I get, it's the people that are on this list 
that make ownership of my Tiger so enjoyable.

Oh, and if Mike Emerich is out there and still has his car, I'd really 
like to see some photos of your E-type rear suspension and find out 
whether you ever changed it out for the XJ-6 bits.  I'm still trying to 
sort mine out. :-)

Best Regards
David Sosna


Tom Hall wrote:

> For all of you that think a National Sunbeam Club is a great new idea, 
> a little history might be in order:





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