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Re: 260 Rebuild - Valve Stem Seals

To: CE25593@aol.com, tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: 260 Rebuild - Valve Stem Seals
From: Bob Palmer <rpalmer@ames.ucsd.edu>
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 22:18:05 -0700
Bob, et Listers,

Dick "TigerCoupe" Barker has discreetly informed me that I have pulled a 
"Chittendon" with respect to misidentification of "260" versus "289" heads. 
The problem I have can be traced back to an experience I had many years ago 
that brought me to a slightly erroneous conclusion. The incident occurred 
when I replace the original 260 in my Tiger with a 289 I reworked the 
original "260" heads with much the same stuff as you did, Bob; screw in 
studs, etc., plus some porting work I did myself. I do remember distinctly, 
though, that these heads had "289" cast in them. What I realized quite some 
time later when comparing them with "real" 289 heads is that they had 
smaller valves and much smaller intake ports. I can't verify the difference 
in intake ports, but here is what I believe is the evolution of the 260/289 
heads. As per The Book of Norman (TBON), the early two-freeze-plug 260's 
had 1.59" intake and 1.39" exhaust and the first three-freeze-plug 260's 
and 289's had 1.67" intake and 1.45" exhaust. Then, (and this is not 
included in the TBON discussion) from mid '64 on until '68 when the 289 was 
discontinued, the intake valve was increased to 1.78". This was true of all 
289's, 2-V, 4-V, and HiPo. From '64&1/2 on, the intake port size on all 
these 289 heads were also the same: 1.04"X1.94". (BTW, the intake port size 
of the 351W is almost the same: 1.16"X1.94"). What I have not been able to 
corroborate is my recollection of the significantly smaller intake ports on 
the early 260/289 heads that came with the Tiger 260 engines - or at least 
with mine ;-) Any help in this regard would be appreciated.

So, to correct the record and speaking from experience, I would not 
recommend spending lots of money reworking the stock Tiger 260 heads, no 
matter what you call them; and properly, they should be called "289" heads 
since that's what I believe they have cast on them. Actually, I'm kind of 
partial to 351W heads, although if I were to start from scratch I'd 
probably go with aluminum TFS or Edelbrock heads.

So, my apologies if I mislead anyone and thanks to Dick for "keeping me 
honest" and helping me preempt any flames for misstating the historical facts.

Bob "Chastenedon" Palmer



At 07:43 AM 9/5/00 -0700, Bob Palmer wrote:
>Bob,
>
>Welcome to the List Bob. Your question raises a related one, which is, if
>the engine is really a 260, are they 260 heads as well? Not many people
>would spend a lot of money on reworking the small 260 heads for
>performance. On the other hand, they do make good "economy" heads, it
>that's what you are after. The valves and the intake passages are smaller
>on the 260 heads, and I think the chamber volumes are less too, compared
>with most 289 and 351 heads.


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