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Subject: Re: curiosity
From: FrizBMG@aol.com
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:00:16 EST
In a message dated 02/22/00 6:09:25 PM, Laifman@Flash.Net writes:

<< I wonder how much you can stroke a 260 before your crank is hitting the 
block?
Stroker cranks already made for 289/302's are a bolt-in, but watch the balance
weight.  A little dynamic balancing, and some lead in the crank never hurts.

PAW offers a 355 CID short and long block kit using a 302 +0.030 block, 3.48
stroke (stock is 3.00), Factory forged steel shot peened rods with special 
pins
and bolts, Hypereutectic pistons, sealed power  stainless + iron rings, 
Clevite 77
bearings, choice of cams, chains, gears, electronically balanced.  Available 
in
.040 and .060 overbore for another 5 CID (Don't do it).  This is a 
short-block kit
for $2895, or a long block with 1.94/1.60 valves etc. for $3395.

Now that 3.48 stroke on your 260's 3.8 bore will give you 316 CID.  Not too
shabby, and the 260 block does have thicker walls than a 289 (but not enough 
for a
4.0 in bore, but enough more that the factory will allow 0.060 overbore on a 
260,
but only 0.040 on a 289.  Check the Tiger Workshop Manual (2nd edition 
covering
both MkI thru MkII).

A complete new Ford Motorsport 302 with roller cam and aluminum GT-40 heads is
$2995, (315 HP), and a 351 version, with 385 hP is $4695, New.

I'd much prefer the Ferrari V-12, or at least a Viper V-10.  {9->

--
Steve Laifman         < Find out what is most     >
B9472289              < important in your life    >
                      < and don't let it get away!>




Bob Palmer wrote:

> Dear E2C,
>
> Just about everyone on the List will have a different answer to this
> perennial question, and the answer depends a lot on what you choose to hold
> constant. With the Tiger, space is even more of an issue than weight. I
> suppose if you were willing to stop an nothing, then you could probably
> install a 427 side oiler with OHC heads and it would go like stink - at
> least in a (hopefully!) straight line. On the other hand, if you aren't
> willing to chop away at the sheet metal, then you can't really even use
> BOSS 302 heads, to say nothing of the problem of routing the exhaust
> headers. Given that you want to keep the car pristine, then there are two
> basic ways to go: more cubes or more revs. Several Tiger owners have
> stroked their engines up to 347 cu. in. On the other hand, I've known some
> 260's that were capable of running in the 8 grand range all afternoon and
> kicked some pretty serious butt. The stroker motor probably makes a better
> street machine though. Probably the most cost-effective way to go is with a
> HO 302 crate motor. You will need to get some of the earlier parts like
> timing chain cover and water pump, but it's a pretty straightforward
> installation and you can't beat the price to power ratio.
>
> Anybody else want to chime in?
>
> Bob
>
> At 04:31 PM 2/22/00 -0500, E2CFlyr@aol.com wrote:
> >I am just wondering if the disadvantage of weight is minimal in comparison
> >to the advantage of horsepower gained in a bigger engine.  From a 289 to
> >something bigger is a dramatic change in weight isn't it? Or is it common
> >to merely change the heads ond keep the block? Thanks for the info ahead
> >of time.
>
> Robert L. Palmer
> UCSD, Dept. of AMES
> 619-822-1037 (o)
> 760-599-9927 (h)
> rpalmer@ucsd.edu
> rpalmer@cts.com

Anybody else want to chime in?

Sure. I wish I had known of this place before I started building my stroker. 
If it were a little closer to Ohio than Texas...
<<http://www.ford-power.com>>  
Engines section is at<< http://www.ford-power.com/engines.htm>>
330HP/302 
 *  New factory 302 roller block (std 4.00 bore size)
*   Ford 302 cast crank
*   Eagle forged rods with 3/8 ARP rod bolts
*   TRW 9.5:1 hypereutectic pistons
*   Sealed Power rings
*   Motorsport B303 roller cam .480" lift/224 @ .050"
*   New hydraulic roller lifters
*   Heavy duty Cloyes timing set
*   Clevite 77 bearings
*   Hi vol oil pump
*   Fel Pro gaskets
*   New  head bolts
*   New World Products Windsor Jr. heads 
*   New 1.94 stainless intake valves
*   New 1.60 stainless exhaust valves
*   Screw in studs and guideplates
*   New springs, retainers and locks
*   New Comp Cams pushrods 
*   New Crane "Hi Intensity" roller rocker arms
*   New Ford harmonic balancer
*   New flexplate for automatic trans (std trans flywheel extra)
*   Balanced, blueprinted and assembled
*   only $2999


------------------------------------------------------------------------



>
370HP/347 stroker 
 *  New factory 302 roller block (std 4.00 bore size)
*   New cast steel "stroker" crankshaft (3.40 stroke)
*   Eagle rods 
*   Keith Black hypereutectic pistons (9.5:1 comp)
*   Sealed Power rings
*   Ford Motorsport roller cam .498" lift, duration 224@.050" 
*   New hydraulic roller lifters
*   New double roller timing set
*   Clevite 77 bearings
*   High volume oil pump
*   Fel-Pro gaskets
*   New  head bolts
*   ARP main bolts
*   World Products Windsor heads
*   New "2.02" stainless intake valves
*   New "1.60" stainless exhaust valves
*   Screw in studs and guideplates
*   New valve springs, retainers and locks
*   Comp Cams pushrods 
*   Crane "High Intensity" roller rockers
*   New flexplate for auto trans (std trans flywheel extra)
*   New Ford harmonic balancer
*   Balanced, blueprinted and assembled
*   only $3999


*upgrades
*   Std trans flywheel $150
*   Forged pistons $250
*   World Products aluminum heads $650




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