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Re: Idle problems

To: "Bryon K. Fortney" <bfortney@us.oracle.com>, tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Idle problems
From: Bob Palmer <rpalmer@ames.ucsd.edu>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 18:20:38 -0800
Bryon,

I once had a problem that sounds identical to the one you describe. Mine 
was with a Holley 600 cfm vacuum secondary (1850) carb. I spent two days 
working on it, blew carb cleaner through every passage and orifice I could 
find. It would run fine at first, but after a lap or two around the block 
it wouldn't idle again. I'm sure there was a tiny little UFO in there 
someplace, but a big race weekend at Willow Springs was coming up, so I 
went down to the local speed shop and bought a brand new one. It had a nice 
PCV hose connection to boot. I've been using the same basic carb ever 
since, just a few mods here and there - center pivot floats, different 
vacuum secondary springs, etc., etc.

The only other carb I've used to any extent on my Tiger was the Carter 625 
cfm spread-bore. It was probably a better street carb than the Holley. It 
ran great just the way it came, no adjustments needed. It had smaller front 
venturi than the Holley, but I didn't really notice any difference in 
partial-throttle response. I have never used a 465 cfm or other smaller 
carb as I have tended to go for maximum output rather than driveability, 
although not to the point of using a double-pumper. I am starting to 
consider trying another carburetor though, especially considering all the 
negative discussion lately regarding Holley.

I'm not sure just what your priorities are with your Tiger, but I wouldn't 
let this bad experience sour me on Holleys. They have their place. What is 
the history of your 600 double-pumper? I'm pretty sure a new one right of 
the box would work pretty well. Maybe you can find someone who would let 
you try out their carb (one you know works right) for awhile to see how you 
like it. As long as your motor is reasonably stock, you don't really have 
to make any changes from the way comes out of the box. That's not to say 
you can't improve things some, but the basic jetting and power valve will 
be pretty close, if maybe a bit on the rich side. A good rule when making 
changes is to make only one change at a time, otherwise you may "lose the 
rabbit" as they say. With Edelbrock carbs, I assume there must be 
adjustments, although I haven't a clue what they would be or how to proceed.

I hope you find a solution quickly so you can start enjoying the beast.


Bob


At 06:58 PM 2/22/00 -0600, Bryon K. Fortney wrote:
>Well I gave up.  Took the Tiger to a local mechanic and crossed my
>fingers.  He was recommended by the local speed shop and has spent most
>of the last ten years building race cars.  Is a "holley" specialist.
>
>Thanks for all the help I tried almost all of the suggestion (w/o buying
>a new carb).  I will pass on any information that may help others.
>
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>Bryon K. Fortney
>
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Robert L. Palmer
UCSD, Dept. of AMES
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