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To: DJLaris@aol.com, tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Shocking history
From: Bob Palmer <rpalmer@ames.ucsd.edu>
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 17:28:56 -0800
At 07:56 PM 1/23/99 -0500, DJLaris@aol.com wrote:
>Hi all,        I know there has been much talk about shocks in the past. But 
>now I'm
>ready to replace them I can't find all the lists I saved.  I took the Koni's
>off the front, one was broke, the other very soft. I'm looking for something
>for street use. Any part numbers or cars that cross over would be very
>helpful. I also need rear ones too. Any help would be appreciated. thanks in
>advance.
>Dan

Dan,

I found the following tips posted to the List over the past couple of months,

>There has been a number of requests for current sources of the new KONI 
>adjustable, low pressure shock. They are:
>
>
>     Tiger Tom
>     (717) 832-1116
>
>
>     CAT Club Parts
>     (CAT members only)
>
>
>There appears to be about a dozen sets still available from these two 
>sources.
>
>
>Barry Kent Schonberger
>TEAM TIGER
>Evansville, IN  47712
>(812) 985-9592
>(812) 465-7021 FAX
>BKSCHONB.UCS@SMTP.USI.EDU

and from Dave Johnson for, I believe, the front shocks,

>My original Armstrong Heavy Duty shock had the following dimesions:
>        Extended Length 12 3/4 in
>        Collapsed Length        8 in
>        Top fitting                     stud
>        Bottom fitting          1 1/2 in ring with 3/8 sleeve bushing
>        No dust cover
>
>
>Monroe Gasmatic # 8248 fits the above specs except the sleeve is 2 1/4 in
>and uses a 7/16 in bolt.  
>
>
>The trick is to use the old sleeve to push out the new sleeve.  Using a 4 in
>vise 3/8 in drive 3/8 socket and a 1 1/2 in pipe 'T' fitting, I pressed the
>old 
>sleeve out of the old shock.
>
>
>The putting the new shock in the vise, I started pressing the new sleevelout
>of the new shock with the socket, until the new sleeve was just starting into
>the rubber bushing (about 1/16 in).  The I switched from the socket to the old
>sleeve and pressed the new sleeve out with the old sleeve.  When pressing
>the new sleeve out, press forward about 1/2 in and then release the pressure
>to avind tearing the rubber bushing.  It doesn't take long for you to complete
>the job.  Paint the shock Armstrong blue and mount using the original bolt 
>and bracket.  
>
>
>Remember to press the new sleeve with the old.  It you remove the new sleeve
>first, the hole in the busing will collapse to about 1/8 inch and you'll never
>get
>the old sleeve in.

and, from Rande Bellman

>For those of you with a good source for Koni, their part number for
>Tiger application is 82-1347 for the front and 82-1348 for the rear and
>the street price is between $100-125 per wheel.
>
>
>The Alpine series numbers for the front is 80-1703 and 80-1704 for the
>rear.
>
>
>These part numbers are from a 1986 Koni catalog, and they were the ones
>I bought from Rick when he had stock.

and, from yours truly,

>I've tried various shocks on my Tiger, SHO, and other "performance"
>vehicles including Bilstein (that's bil-stine, not bil-steen), Spax, etc.,
>but so far never Konis. I have also looked for cheaper solutions that work
>acceptably well. In particular, I am now using shocks for a Ford 1/2 ton
>van application on the rear of my Tiger. I found they were dead ringers for
>the oem Tiger rear shocks, but of course somewhat stiffer. The ones I got
>seem to be more-or-less 50/50 as you would want for performance driving
>rather than the soft compression, soft rebound type engineered more for
>ride comfort. These shocks may be a bit stiff for the stock rear springs,
>but if you have stiffened the springs as I have, they seem to be about
>right. I got ones made by Gabriel, but Monroe might be a bit higher quality
>(and price). I also got the "hijacker" version that lets me adjust the ride
>height with air pressure. This really comes in handy with my low basic ride
>height. The part number on the Gabriels I bought is 39173. They work a
>whole lot better than the Spax they replaced, and cheaper 

I'mn sure there's much more buried in the "Vanity Plates", "Long Rods", and
other subjects covered during '98, but this should get you going.

Good luck,

Bob



Robert L. Palmer
Dept. of AMES, Univ. of Calif., San Diego
rpalmer@ames.ucsd.edu
rpalmer@cts.com

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