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Re: Fraud?

To: <mmeswarb@huntel.net>
Subject: Re: Fraud?
From: "JAN HARDE" <harde@cyberesc.net>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 16:50:48 -0700
Mark,
If the car had the Alpine ID and not represented as a Tiger, then O.K. ,
many people out there have MBZ 450's that put the 560 script on it or a
Mustang with a Cora emblem, no harm, but if the car is represented as
something that it is not, then you have fraud...
Like many have said, you will never stop this behavior, as long as there is
the potential for profit people with have at it.
It is great to see the out-pouring of emotion regarding this issue, here in
this forum, maybe we will all in  some small way make a difference...

Take care all....           Jan...


-----Original Message-----
From: mmeswarb@huntel.net <mmeswarb@huntel.net>
To: tigers@autox.team.net <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, August 18, 1998 7:19 AM
Subject: Re: Fraud?


>Just curious, but what if the VIN plates had not been switched.  i.e.
>they were still Alpine numbers, but on a conversion?  If this guy's a
>first time Tiger buyer he might not know an Alpine VIN from a Tiger
>one.  Would that still be fraud?  Just another gray area.
>
>Mark
>
>Bob Palmer wrote:
>>
>> Listers,
>>
>> While, as we all know, there are many different perspectives on the Alger
>> question, I think the sale of one in Monterey last Friday provides an
>> opportunity to focus on a specific and tangible case rather than just
>> throwing around philosophical points of view. Now I think even Brock
agrees
>> that switching VIN plates becomes illegal if done for the purpose of
>> perpetrating a fraud. My dictionary defines "fraud" as: "A deception
>> deliberately practiced in order to secure unfair or unlawful gain." So,
the
>> first question is: Does the buyer know that he/she is buying an Alpine
with
>> the VIN, etc. switched; i.e., was there deception.
>


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