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RE: Timing

To: <JEFF_CARTER@HP-Cupertino-om5.om.hp.com>
Subject: RE: Timing
From: "Allan Connell" <alcon@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 22:25:37 -0700
Thanks,

Plumb forgot about the most important part!!  Good way to tell this is with
an air hose from the compressor fitted with a bulb from a compression
tester......and a friend who is bold enough to stick their nose up the tail
pipe to feel the rush of air to tell the exhaust stroke.  Now I hope I don't
get this wrong, but I think you want to be 180 degrees OFF of the exhaust
stroke.....on a combustion stroke.

Allan
B9472373

-----Original Message-----
From:   owner-tigers@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-tigers@autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of JEFF_CARTER@HP-Cupertino-om5.om.hp.com
Sent:   Tuesday, June 23, 1998 2:02 PM
To:     alcon@earthlink.net
Cc:     jhankins@ix.netcom.com; joseph.hankins@factory-mutual.com;
tigers@autox.team.net
Subject:        RE: Timing

     Allan/Joe,

     You also need to be aware of which stroke your on.  Compression or
     exhaust?  You might be able to tell if your valves are closed
     (compression stroke) by determining how hard the blow-out exits the
     plug hole.  The sure way to tell is by removing the valve cover.  Not
     the easiest thing to do on a Tiger.

     JCarter


Subject: RE: Timing
Author:  Non-HP-alcon (alcon@earthlink.net) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw5
Date:    6/23/98 12:55 PM


Joe,

Simply, most people will use a NO. 2 pencil to determine TDC.  If I am wrong
I am sure the list will correct me.  First, remove #1 spark plug.  If you
can do so without screwing yourself up, remove them all to reduce
compression....you will see why in a minute.  Insert a pencil into the #1
Spark plug hole.  With the car in 4th gear, have someone carefully move the
car backwards or forwards to turn the crankshaft while you hold on the to
pencil with very light pressure down towards the piston.  As the car moves
you will feel the pencil move up or down, so adjust your car motion so that
the piston is moving up.  Once the piston is moving up toward TDC and
someone is moving the car SLOWLY for you, take care to maintain contact with
the top of the piston.  Extra car must be taken as you approach TDC to avoid
the pencil being snapped off in the combustion chamber.  I have never had it
happen, but that does not mean it can't.  Once it reaches TDC, you will be
able to tell with the pencil once piston #1 had reached the apex of its
travel.  This position should be TDC.  Mark the dampener accordingly or note
that it is properly marked at TDC.

Now that you have TDC, you can look at the other issues.  One question I
have for you is the "Ford Dual-Point with a Pertronics Ignitor"  I like the
Pertronics stuff and would like to replace the points in my Accel
distributor with Pertronics, but they don't make such a kit.  Can you please
tell me more regarding your "Ford Dual-Point" as this is the "Trouble-free
and reliable" set-up I would some day like to convert to, along with a T-5
tranny.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Allan
B9472373

-----Original Message-----
From:   owner-tigers@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-tigers@autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Joe Hankins
Sent:   Tuesday, June 23, 1998 4:49 AM
To:     tigers
Cc:     Joe
Subject:        Timing

For the remaining .001% of the world to whom I have not yet displayed my
boundless ignorance, I once again have a stupid question:

How can i simply(?) determine TDC for the No. 1 cylinder in order to set
the timing on my beast?

It doesn't have a stock distributor (it has a Ford dual point job with a
Pertronics Ignitor), and if  I set the timing according to the marks, it
barely runs (way too advanced). Perhaps the distributor was installed out
of whack, or something.

Anyway, any ideas out there?

Joe




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