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>Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 22:26:56 -0700
>From: Steve Sage <rootes@ix.netcom.com>
>To: JAN HARDE <harde@cyberesc.net>, Tiger List <tigers@autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: "" CONCOURSE/ SWAP MEET ???? ""
>References: <004c01bd9496$49880c60$28550dce@harde.cyberesc.net>
>Sender: owner-tigers@autox.team.net
>Reply-To: Steve Sage <rootes@ix.netcom.com>
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>JAN HARDE wrote:
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>> Steve,
>> Of course you are kidding, not another swap during the Concourse FIASCO....
>> I still remember the B.S. during the Swap combo in Tarantulla a few years
>> ago, I was judging together with Dale, we got done, tired and hot, and the
>> swap was closing up...
>> Well that is a HUUUUUUUGGGGEEEE disappointment again....
>> I hope this was only ment as a JOKE and a late April fools at that...
>> Please also post the judging criteria for this years show, is it a TRUE
>> Concourse?? or judged by other step to the right step to the left
>> routine????
>> A judges group ??? Is there a Masters class for this year ?? is there a
>> special interest ??
>>
>> Look to seeing you there, hope to bring my car, if the back gets better...
>>
>> Jan.... ( please take this as constructive advise, from lessons learned in
>> the past)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Steve Sage <rootes@ix.netcom.com>
>> To: Tiger List <tigers@autox.team.net>; Alpines List
>> <alpines@autox.team.net>
>> Date: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 3:04 PM
>> Subject: George Fallahy Award
>>
>> >To those who have expressed an interest, as per Norm's instructions, the
>> >winner of the Fallahy award has been chosen and will be announced at the
>> >Sunday awards banquet at Tigers United in Big Bear Lake.For those not
>> >attending, we'll post the winner afterwards.
>> >
>> >Now here's the Tigers United Update: Dates...June 26-27-28, 1998.Place,
>> >Big Bear Lake, California.
>> >
>> >50 Tigers, 7 Alpines and 111 people so far. There will be lots of
>> >looking at cars, driving around and acting silly, sightseeing, Sunbeam
>> >video viewing, parts selling and swapping, autocrossing, eating and
>> >drinking, swimming, hiking, and just generally having a good time. Sign
>> >up soon if you're coming, or forever hold your peace. If you think your
>> >entry might arrive at our place after June 20, let us know now since
>> >we're moving on that date and the mail might not catch up before the
>> >event. If you're not coming because of some silly reason, don't be silly
>> >and get your *()^%%$$% up to the event!
>> >
>> >If you're coming and want to sell or swap Sunbeam/Rootes goodies, bring
>> >them along. The parts swap/sell will take place concurrent with the
>> >concours on Saturday morning.
>> >
>> >E-mail any questions.
>> >
>> >Be there, or be square!
>> >
>> >Steve Sage
>
>Hello Jan And Everyone Else:
>
>I'm replying to the general Tiger list, as well as to Jan, since Jan posted to
>the whole list. I'm also including my original post so those who may have
>deleted it get the whole context.
>
>I will preface this note by saying that I think that everyone who knows me, and
>members of CAT who get the club magazine that I edit, will agree that I have
>pretty much always tried to keep out of the petty politics and Rootes
>historical revisionism that a very few self proclaimed know it alls seem to get
>some kind of perverse pleasure out of spreading. However, Jan's friendly
>posting to the list, plus some of the drivel I've received over the net and
>elsewhere from those who claim to be higher authorities about The Rootes Group
>than people who worked directly for the factory, and the silly sniping back and
>forth between various factions, has finally succeeded in generating a response
>from me on the subject. I think many will agree that we own our Sunbeams to
>have a good time, for the common connection they give us with other Rootes
>owners all over the world, and because we all must be nuts to pour all the time
>and money that we do into 30 year old cars!
>
>To answer Jan directly, point by point: 1. I am not kidding. The Temecula swap
>meet was not a fiasco, but instead generated numerous positive comments. Jane
>and I both enjoyed it, and the whole event. I have never heard Dale, or anyone
>else for that matter, complain about the concours or parts swap at that event.
>2. Jan hypothesizes that this is constructive advice. Jan, if you weren't
>trying to make a negative statement, you would have communicated with me
>privately and not on the general list. 3. No, I will not post judging criteria
>for the concours event. First of all, if you want to nit pick the event, before
>it happens, over the net, what you should do is next time volunteer to put on
>Tigers United yourself, instead of griping and complaining in public. That way
>you can set up the scoring, or anything else, any way you want. Secondly,
>posting the scoring criteria for any event ahead of time would be patently
>unfair. 4. Finally, since you have not yet signed up for the event, why do you
>care?
>
>Here's the bottom line: As of 10 PM, California time, Wednesday, 108 people are
>signed up, with 48 Tigers, 7 Alpines and other non Rootes entries, several
>additional entries on the way, people coming from as far away as Australia, all
>60 rooms reserved for United at the Northwoods Resort are taken, and we have
>only one plan for the weekend of June 26-27 & 28, and that is to have FUN. Our
>sole goal for this event is to make sure that everyone else does the same, and
>has a great time.
>
>Steve & Jane Sage
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