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Re: Tiger identification manual

To: <tigers@Autox.Team.Net>, <tartanad@ix21.ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Tiger identification manual
From: nicholsj@oakwood.org
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 98 16:29:13 -0500
     
     Well, I knew publishing a book on Tiger identification was too good to 
     be true.  The pressure to suppress is too great from the self-appointed 
     true keepers of the flame.  
     
'1-Only a select few "experts" in the country are worthy enough of identifying a
true Tiger and unless this group places its sticker on your chassis, you have no
assurance of what you own or are looking to purchase.'
     
     Did someone actually say this to you?  If they did, then the "a" word 
     applies here, the one spelled a********.  Let the owner/buyer decide for   
 
          themselves based on information that will make them reasonably 
     certain.  No one asked for a guarantee or assurance of authenticity.  To 
     quote Sergeant Joe Friday, 'Just the facts, Ma'am. Just the facts.' 
     
     
'This group looks at a parts and design and fabrication manual as sacrilege 
since the manual merely allows anyone to "build" a Tiger out of an Alpine.'
     
     Helloooo, anybody home?  Earth to Mars, Calling Earth to Mars!  According 
     to some,  bogus Tigers are built by the dozens without a "how to manual".  
     In fact, some are so good  that long time owners and "experts" are fooled. 
     Lets look at this issue from another angle, what if there are no "secrets" 
     to building a Tiger? Could it be the TACophiles are fooling us with 
stories 
     of Tiger construction methods only a chosen few can understand? Makes you 
     think, doesn't it? 
     
'The other school of thought is that since it is virtually impossible in most 
parts of the country (world) to get someone to authenticate their Tiger, any 
help in the identification process is a plus.'
     
     This is the crux of the matter. Out here in the boonies,  Tigers are for 
sale and, I suppose, some phony ones along with the authentic.  If there was a 
guidebook, at least the phony Tigers out here will be built to a better 
standard. You wouldn't have a slickmeister showing a rube an Alpine with a 
generic V8 shoehorned in saying, 'Son, this is the way the late, great, Ken 
Miles built them 30 odd years ago. Yep, they sure steered funny with the engine 
so far forward.  But, what the hell,  Mr. Shelby was involved and he wanted 
them to scoot! When you press the loud pedal, boy, hold on to your hat!'   
     
'And we firmly believe that the few guys out there who already know how to      
build perfect conversions certainly would have no use for any manual we         
could publish.'
     
      Amen, brother!  Truer words were never spoken!
      
      
      'It is high time that the only existing certification group in the 
country 
      takes a more pro-active position and provides some methods to help out 
      those with questions about their car' authenticity.'
      
      You forget, bow down, face to the  West and repeat three times,
      "We're not worthy!"  This sounds good, but the chance of it happening is 
      slim to none.  
      
      
      Jeff 
      
      P.S. I can hear them now, 'All he has is uninformed opinions!' 
       
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Subject: Tiger identification manual
Author:  tiger technologies <tartanad@ix21.ix.netcom.com> at INTERNET 
Date:    1/15/98 10:10 AM
     
     
To All:
Judging from all the communication--pro and con--regarding Tiger 
Technologies' decision to produce a manual on how to identify a "real Tiger" 
it is apparent there are two schools of thought: 1-Only a select few 
"experts" in the country are worthy enough of identifying a true Tiger and 
unless this group places its sticker on your chassis, you have no assurance 
of what you own or are looking to purchase. This group looks at a parts and 
design and fabrication manual as sacrilege since the manual merely allows 
anyone to "build" a Tiger out of an Alpine.
     
The other school of thought is that since it is virtually impossible in most 
parts of the country (world) to get someone to authenticate their Tiger, any 
help in the identification process is a plus.
     
Our position is that since Tigers are now going up in value, it is more 
important than ever that potential buyers have a manner to prevent them from 
being stung by spending $30,000 on a car really worth $10,000. And we firmly 
believe that the few guys out there who already know how to build perfect 
conversions certainly would have no use for any manual we could publish.
     
So the bottom line is: how can prospective buyers and current owners be 
helped in identifying their vehicles as actual Tigers...
     
It is high time that the only existing certification group in the country 
takes a more pro-active position and provides some methods to help out those 
with questions about their car' authenticity. Maybe it's an 800 number. Or a 
website hotline. Or something else...like a trouble spot identification
manual available to the general Tiger public.But something must be done...NOW!
     
And perhaps those on the other side who just want some way of verifying what 
they're driving have some suggestions as well.
     
Jan and I are open to a middle ground solution. But a solution must be 
found. Therefore, we are going to hold off on any action until March 1st 
before proceeding. In the meantime, fax us, call us, E-mail, write 
us...hell, send up smoke signals if you wish, giving us alternatives.
     
We await your reaction and comments.
     
Jeff/TT
     
     



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