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Re[2]: Rivets and other Modifications

To: Spook37211@aol.com, Tom Hall <modtiger@engravers.com>
Subject: Re[2]: Rivets and other Modifications
From: nicholsj@oakwood.org
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 97 10:37:57 EST
     'However, if some of you some how feel that you have some God given 
     right to corrupt the wisdom, foresight, inventiveness and personal 
     risks taken by my friend Ian Garrad, I am going to be in your face to 
     the maximum extent possible, till the day I leave to join him.' 
     
     Tom Hall
     
     How in the hell did the Ian Garrad's reputation get involved in this 
     discussion?  Did he start TAC or suggest it?  It's a good thing 
     lightning bolts can't be sent through e-mail or we would have a few 
     less Tiger owners!  Cool off dudes!
     
     
     Jeff


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Subject: Re: Rivets and other Modifications
Author:  Tom Hall <modtiger@engravers.com> at INTERNET
Date:    3/19/97 7:41 AM


At 10:03 AM 3/18/97 -0500, you wrote: 
>Tom,
>I guess that the REAL problem is the fear that a car that left the factory as 
>a Tiger, was raced, wrecked, and rebuilt a few times would be declared a 
>'conversion' by a self appointed committee that never tells what the problem 
>might be.
>In a nutshell, an opinion might affect the enjoyment of the car ("oh, this 
>piece of sh*t?...I thought it was a Tiger but now I  just run the cr*p out of 
>it, since it will never be worth much.....) as well cause legal problems down 
>the road.  Witness what has happened to some of the Corvette Indy Pace Cars. 
>I appreciate what you are doing, but I also suspect that most of the people 
>doing the TAC do so out of a regard for using a free advisory service as a 
>basis to jack up the price of their investment.
>I recall a magazine interview with Norm a few years ago, in which he stated 
>that the Tiger was never meant to be a hotrod, and that modified cars would 
>never be worth much.
>Like some others, I suspect the TAC to be a backdoor way to make this a self 
>fulfilling prophecy.
>Regards, Ray 
     
Ray,
     
This is response is not directed at you personally, but an accumulation of 
several days of Anti -TAC comments. 
     
If your simply looking for differences between my Tiger philosophy and 
Norman's, you just struck a homer, for what that's worth.  Norm is not alone 
in his feelings on the value of  "stock" Tigers, and that's just fine with 
me.  I, on the other hand, don't own a Tiger,  or Alpine for that matter, 
that is not Modified to the Max.  The Tiger I bought new in 1966 has been a 
rolling laboratory for every possible modification that does not distroy its 
basic visual identity.  It has fender flairs, functional side air vents, 4 
wheel disc brakes, Dual master cylinders, Hi-po 289, Pearl White Paint, etc. 
 My Blue Tiger has a late 302, T-5 trans, dual ignitions, dual fuel systems, 
full black leather interior, Vented front disc brakes, etc.  My daughters 
Alpine runs on a 13B Mazda rotary with a Tiger rear end and 5 speed. 
     
My Third Tiger was recently sold to Rob Guerra, my son-in-law, and I am now 
re-engineering the front structure of the Unibody to include new 
triangulated  structural members connecting the firewall to the frame, a 
Monte Carlo bar and related structural connections to the shock tower and 
crossmember.  We will be using a Power Steering Rack, with the location yet 
to be determined, to improve the awful factory compromize on  Ackerman 
geometry.  I am an Engineer by both education and work experience.  I 
really don't know where we'll stop, and put Rob's Tiger on the road.  Next 
time around, I will push the envelope even farther.  In short, I live to 
improve my interests, and I build Tigers.
     
Every one of our family Tigers came down the Jensen Assembly Line.  I just 
like to make my own personal "adjustments".  I frankly don't care a whit 
about the "investment" value of my Tigers, or yours either.  I do 
appreciate basic human honesty and integrity.   It really PMO to see some 
inexperienced potential Tiger owner taken advantage of by an experienced 
member of "Our Fraternity".  If keeping secrets is helpful in protecting 
the integrity of this Marque, that's exactly what I'm going to do, and if 
we are the only Marque to take that step, I can sleep well at night.  
     
 And if you think that "everybody does it" is an excuse, your going to face 
the same consequences as the guy with the bad knee in DC. (my apologies to 
the PC police)
     
For the last time, If the physical evidence of "factory production" is not 
observable to STOA Inspectors, (by our interpretation) we do not 
authenticate.  If I  know what to look for, and you don't, that's just the 
way it is.  Nobody whispered in my ear.  I learned by making the effort, 
and I don't give that away.
     
     



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