All;
-Last week on vacation I met with a number of the SUNBEAM OWNER'S GROUP (SOG)
in San Diego. One of their "most-savvy mechanical gurus" (sorry, I forgot his
name) has had much success putting V-6's into Alpines for folks. I believe he
uses the V-6 from the Capri's. Don't know what tranny set-up he uses or prefers.
Contact Terry Edlund or Ole Olson for more details.
P.S. Has anyone ever built a REAL RADICAL Tiger with a pumped-up 289/302/351
mated to a "Clutchflite" C-4/C-6 with shift-kit, etc. like I used to see some of
the "bracket-racer's" use?
Phil LeBrun
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Subject: Re: BOP / Really , Really Small
Author: Keith Bradshaw <bradshaw@utdallas.edu> at ~INTERNET
Date: 6/25/96 7:42 AM
Rick:
Re:
>>>>>>>"Actually there is a "p". A few Tempests came with the 215
aluminum
engine">>>>>>
Hmmm. _I_ sure don't remember PontiacTempests having a "215" v-8.
Slant
four, "rope" driveshaft, and transaxle,........ yes. 215
v-8.......???
But hey, if that's true then which did Pontiac use ? The Olds or Buick
motor ?
I don't know whick motor they used but R&T in one of their collection of stories
has an
article by one of their authors who was driving a 356 Porsche but due to family
etc.
had to go to a larger car. He finally settled on a swing axle rope drive V-8
Tempest.
He liked the car and the carrying capacity...I think he traded in the 356.
I also see in my reference stuff, that they offered the 326 iron V-8 in 1963.
I had heard that was the reason they dropped the rope drive and transaxle for
1964.
>>>>>>>>". also the bellhousing pattern and some of the the other
engine
features were
shared amongst "p" cars so it isn't incorrect to refer to them as BPOE
afterall" >>>>>>>>>>>
Agreed, _IF_ you're talking about the "accessories" ( the transmission
/
common bell housing bolt pattern coming to mind specifically ) and not
the
engines themselves. Buick, Olds, and Pontiac _engines_ are
distinctly
different.
>>>>>>>>>My info says Tempest slant 4 is 470lbs (yikes!).>>>>>>>>>>>>
...... You'd need _ another_ four cylinders just to pull that weight
around
! .............. Hey, do all the go fast parts available for the 389
fit
in the 194 ??
Mickey Thompson, in a I believe the Challenger series cars had a super Aero body
build for a
rail to go for several STOCK world speed limits. He apparently had to use parts
only from the
manufacturer. So he used on a Pontiac 421 with two turbos. Now I think he got
these from the Chevy Corvair,
or Olds Jetfire.
However, he also built up a 4 bbl turbocharged 194 4 cylinder and set records
with that and
I believe the 194 had a 4 barrell option.
>>>>>>>>"I'd agree that the 289/302 (at 460lbs) is a nice light,
compact
package. In a practical sense the Ford has far greater HP potential
because
of the availability and lower cost of performance goodies (at least
here in
the States).">>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Definitely. Also I might add, practical from the standpoint of being
more
durable ( good ol cast iron does have some inherent advantages ) and
less
stressed due to another 75 to 90 inches more displacement over the 215.
Hey, has anybody put anything like a late model Nissan V-6 and 5 speed
in an
Alpine ??
One thing I found, driving a 510 and reading the Web page is just about all the
Datsun 4 cylinder
engines and transmissions every made bolt up in any combination. A popular swap
was putting a 2.2 l truck engine
in a 70 510 as it would bolt to the transmission. Or putting a 5 speed into an
early 510.
Some people bolted the 240Z series 6 cylinder in also. This might be an easier
swap than
the V-6.
mBrad
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