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Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Past present and future- no LBC
From: John Farley via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 18:25:34 -0500
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I was born in 1947, so lived through the Cold War and hiding under our
desks in schools when the air raid tests were conducted.  I completely
agree with Nory.

On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 6:01=E2=80=AFPM David G via Spridgets <
spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

> You are not alone in being baffled
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Spridgets <spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of
> Weslake1330 via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 24, 2025 2:43 PM
> *To:* Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
>
> *Subject:* [Spridgets] Past present and future- no LBC
>
> Hi List,
>
> I was born in the early 1960s in a rural part of the country and it seems
> within walking distance of one of many nuclear missile stations here in
> England.  It was too soon for ICBMs so America had our friendly assistanc=
e
> in siting short range nuclear missiles in our country and within striking
> range of the USSR - THOR (lots on YouTube and the internet about THOR).
>
> I was at school for the moon landings and only decades later visited the
> place where Neil Armstrong's famous words  were first heard.  That place
> was not the USA but a British crown territory where the signal was receiv=
ed
> and then sent onto the USA.  The place was Ascension Island (at least one
> good fiction book was based on the island...).
>
> I was an enlisted serviceman in the RAF where I saw one of the last b&w
> photos of a Russian bear that had been live intercepted by a fighter from
> my squadron.  About the same time I saw a piece of rubbish concrete that
> arrived in the mail for a member of the squadron - it was a piece of the
> Berlin wall.
>
> The world order changed, the cold war ended and the world seemed a safer
> place and maybe for a while it was.  Terrorist attacks continued around t=
he
> world and in various countries and still do.  So I guess this is the
> present.
>
> The future seems less safe and so I wanted to write this e-mail.  My
> understanding is that lots of honest (not corrupt) and good countries are=
 a
> friend of the USA.  Also the good countries (think of NATO members as a
> starting point) have the same common enemies as the USA does: Iran, North
> Korea, China (Peoples Republic of China) and Russia.  However I guess Ira=
n
> and North Korea actually hate the USA and would like to nuke it and maybe
> one day they will try to, but not bother with England/the UK or Europe or
> maybe just not have enough missiles to try to do so.
>
> The Ukraine has been invaded in part by Russia and the only reason they
> haven't been totally taken over is because they fought back and had help
> and support from the USA and Europe.  The Ukraine might be on their last
> legs but in a different way so is Russia and they have both paid a hefty
> price to date.
>
> If you think back to my childhood where Europe was a willing buffer to
> help keep the USSR at bay who targeted missiles (now ICBMs and sub
> delivered) at the USA and Europe - it was a policy that worked.
>
> So what I don't understand is why the USA would now be so friendly to
> Russia.  Call the Ukraine a European problem and you might be right.
> However, why be wholly on Russia's side who are propped up by North Korea
> who have undoubtedly gained money and most likely warfare expertise
> (nuclear and missile technology)?  Once Russia have what they want and so
> does North Korea, is the world a more dangerous place and is the USA less
> safe from rogue states than ever before?
>
> Regards
>
>
> Daniel
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<div dir=3D"auto">I was born in 1947, so lived through the Cold War and hid=
ing under our desks in schools when the air raid tests were conducted.=C2=
=A0 I completely agree with Nory.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 6:01=E2=80=AFPM David G via Spridg=
ets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net";>spridgets@autox.team.ne=
t</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">




<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
You are not alone in being baffled</div>
<div id=3D"m_3898735308143715881appendonsend"></div>
<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%">
<div id=3D"m_3898735308143715881divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Ca=
libri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> =
Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D=
"_blank">spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; on behalf of Weslake1330 =
via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_bl=
ank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 24, 2025 2:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt;</font></div></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><div id=3D"m_3898735308143715881divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=
=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Spridgets] Past present and future- no LBC</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi List,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I was born in the early 1960s in a rural part of the country and it se=
ems within walking distance of one of many nuclear missile stations here in=
 England.=C2=A0 It was too soon for ICBMs so America had our friendly assis=
tance in siting short range nuclear missiles
 in our country and within striking range of the USSR - THOR (lots on YouTu=
be and the internet about THOR).</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I was at school for the moon landings and only decades later visited t=
he place where Neil Armstrong&#39;s famous words=C2=A0 were first heard.=C2=
=A0 That place was not the USA but a British crown territory where the sign=
al was received and then sent onto the USA.=C2=A0 The
 place was Ascension Island (at least one good fiction book was based on th=
e island...).</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I was an enlisted serviceman in the RAF where I saw one of the last b&=
amp;w photos of a Russian bear that had been live intercepted by a fighter =
from my squadron.=C2=A0 About the same time I saw a piece of rubbish concre=
te that arrived in the mail for a member
 of the squadron - it was a piece of the Berlin wall.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The world order changed, the cold war ended and the world seemed a saf=
er place and maybe for a while it was.=C2=A0 Terrorist attacks continued ar=
ound the world and in various countries and still do.=C2=A0 So I guess this=
 is the present.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The future seems less safe and so I wanted to write this e-mail.=C2=A0=
 My understanding is that lots of honest (not corrupt) and good countries a=
re a friend of the USA.=C2=A0 Also the good countries (think of NATO member=
s as a starting point) have the same common
 enemies as the USA does: Iran, North Korea, China (Peoples Republic of Chi=
na) and Russia.=C2=A0 However I guess Iran and North Korea actually hate th=
e USA and would like to nuke it and maybe one day they will try to, but not=
 bother with England/the UK or Europe
 or maybe just not have enough missiles to try to do so.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The Ukraine has been invaded in part by Russia and the only reason the=
y haven&#39;t been totally taken over is because they fought back and had h=
elp and support from the USA and Europe.=C2=A0 The Ukraine might be on thei=
r last legs but in a different way so is
 Russia and they have both paid a hefty price to date.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>If you think back to my childhood where Europe was a willing buffer to=
 help keep the USSR at bay who targeted missiles (now ICBMs and sub deliver=
ed) at the USA and Europe - it was a policy that worked.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So what I don&#39;t understand is why the USA would now be so friendly=
 to Russia.=C2=A0 Call the Ukraine a European problem and you might be righ=
t.=C2=A0 However, why be wholly on Russia&#39;s side who are propped up by =
North Korea who have undoubtedly gained money and
 most likely warfare expertise (nuclear and missile technology)?=C2=A0 Once=
 Russia have what they want and so does North Korea, is the world a more da=
ngerous place and is the USA less safe from rogue states than ever before?<=
/div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Daniel</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>

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