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Re: [Spridgets] Electrical help-Alternator conversion

To: Greg Gowins <emailme@greggowins.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Electrical help-Alternator conversion
From: Mark Haynes via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 09:25:16 -0700
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No Greg,
I don't have a part number, but Jim and Kevin's input has helped.
It appears that the I terminal needs switched 12V, the L terminal is the
charge lamp signal, and the S terminal gets battery 12V along with the B+.
There was a thread on the MGB forum about this same ND alternator
highlighting that if the S terminal isn't seeing battery voltage, you don't
get full 14+V output, so I've wired it to the B+ terminal as well.
This was supposed to be a 1 wire alternator, but it's what I've got, so I'm
working it out.
Thanks to everyone who has offered input.
I'll report back about this after I finish the rest of my mod adaptations
and get it running.



On Wed, Mar 6, 2024, 7:41=E2=80=AFAM Greg Gowins <emailme@greggowins.com> w=
rote:

> Hey Mark!
>
> I'm looking back through my notes from when we wired the alternator into
> my car.  I'm assuming that the fundamentals between the one you have and
> the one I have are fairly similar.    However, the 3rd wire is the main
> difference.   I'd try it both ways, with it connected to switched power a=
nd
> without.  This particular alternator might have some kind of circuit that
> cuts everything off if it doesn't sense ignition power.    Do you happen =
to
> have the part number of this alternator handy?
>
> Greg
>
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 11:42=E2=80=AFAM Mark Haynes via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> I'm sliding down this slippery slope of modification and need some help.
>> I'm trying to put a ND 3 wire alternator into my BE. It's already
>> converted to Negative ground and I'm intending on rewiring the regulator
>> per Barney Gaylord to just use it as a terminal block.
>> Here's the issue, the alternator has a Battery Positive Sense (S)
>> terminal, a Keyed Battery Ignition (I) terminal and an Indicator Light (=
L)
>> terminal.
>> I'm assuming that the S terminal should get the 'fat' brown wire that
>> used to go to the D terminal on the regulator (new placement the A termi=
nal
>> after rewiring), and that the L terminal goes to the small yellow wire t=
o
>> feed power to shut off the charge light.
>> Do I need to wire the I terminal (Keyed battery ignition) so that it see=
s
>> power when the ignition switch is on (the white wire at A1 of the
>> regulator), or is this redundant and unnecessary?
>> TIA, the new engine/5 speed/speedhut tach & speedo are all coming
>> together to drive this spring!
>> Mark Haynes
>> It only goes one way- Pay It Forward
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<div dir=3D"auto">No Greg,=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto">I don&#39;t have a part n=
umber, but Jim and Kevin&#39;s input has helped.</div><div dir=3D"auto">It =
appears that the I terminal needs switched 12V, the L terminal is the charg=
e lamp signal, and the S terminal gets battery 12V along with the B+.</div>=
<div dir=3D"auto">There was a thread on the MGB forum about this same ND al=
ternator highlighting that if the S terminal isn&#39;t seeing battery volta=
ge, you don&#39;t get full 14+V output, so I&#39;ve wired it to the B+ term=
inal as well.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">This was supposed to be a 1 wire=
 alternator, but it&#39;s what I&#39;ve got, so I&#39;m working it out.=C2=
=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks to everyone who has offered input.=C2=A0<=
/div><div dir=3D"auto">I&#39;ll report back about this after I finish the r=
est of my mod adaptations and get it running.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">=
<br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 6, 2024, 7:41=E2=80=AFAM =
Greg Gowins &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:emailme@greggowins.com";>emailme@greggowin=
s.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Hey Mark!<div><br></div><div>I&#39;m looking back through my notes from =
when we wired the alternator into my car.=C2=A0 I&#39;m assuming that the f=
undamentals between the one you have and the one I have are fairly similar.=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 However, the 3rd wire is the main difference.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I&#=
39;d try it both ways, with it connected to switched power and without.=C2=
=A0 This particular alternator might have some kind of circuit that cuts ev=
erything off if it doesn&#39;t sense ignition=C2=A0power.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Do y=
ou happen to have the part number of this alternator handy?</div><div><br><=
/div><div>Greg</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" c=
lass=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 11:42=E2=80=AFAM Mark Haynes via=
 Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank=
" rel=3D"noreferrer">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:=
1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I&#39;m =
sliding down this slippery slope of modification and need some help.</div><=
div>I&#39;m trying to put a ND 3 wire alternator into my BE. It&#39;s alrea=
dy converted to Negative ground and I&#39;m intending on rewiring the regul=
ator per Barney Gaylord to just use it as a terminal block.</div><div>Here&=
#39;s the issue, the alternator has a Battery Positive Sense (S) terminal, =
a Keyed Battery Ignition (I) terminal and an Indicator Light (L) terminal. =
<br></div><div>I&#39;m assuming that the S terminal should get the &#39;fat=
&#39; brown wire that used to go to the D terminal on the regulator (new pl=
acement the A terminal after rewiring), and that the L terminal goes to the=
 small yellow wire to feed power to shut off the charge light. <br></div><d=
iv>Do I need to wire the I terminal (Keyed battery ignition) so that it see=
s power when the ignition switch is on (the white wire at A1 of the regulat=
or), or is this redundant and unnecessary?</div><div>TIA, the new engine/5 =
speed/speedhut tach &amp; speedo are all coming together to drive this spri=
ng!<br></div><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div>Mark Haynes<br></div>It only goes one way- Pay It Forward<br>=
</div></div></div></div></div>
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