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Re: [Spridgets] Midget Values

To: Michael MacLean <springer.mike51@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget Values
From: Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2022 14:44:36 -0400
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List,
How do I know which battery I have in my vehicles, the AGM (absorbed glass
mat) or the other such as Group 24 flooded lead acid? I believe I ate 2
batteries on tenders this past winter. I would like to get a small in size,
sealed battery for my Sprite because I have to remove the hood otherwise.
However the sealed batteries can't be tender charged because they are
sealed.  I'm not sure if the batteries I have are any good as this is the
first week I'm home long enough to check. None of my batteries are sealed.
Can I assume the type of batteries I have are written on the battery or is
there another test to determine which type I have?

Let me understand this, the AGM battery cannot be tender charged or they
will die. But not necessarily sealed?

https://www.batterystuff.com/kb/articles/5-battery-types-explained-sealed-a=
gm-gel.html


Thank you kindly,
Linda
62 California Sprite "Pinky"


On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 8:56 PM Michael MacLean via Spridgets <
spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

> I use AGM batteries in my Harley Davidson.  If they go down I just put it
> on a smart charger the night before I use the bike.  Battery has lasted f=
or
> quite awhile this way.
> Mike MacLean
>
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 12:03 PM CosmicMag1380 via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> AGM batteries are a good choice but not if you store your car with a
>> tender on it. Trickle charging will "cook" an AGM. Absorptive Glass Mat
>> will dry out when slowly charged and ruin the battery. A fast, high amp
>> charger is better if the battery goes down. I usually disconnect mine in
>> the winer and charge it once in the spring before driving.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 12:00 PM Larry Macy via Spridgets <
>> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I used a group 51 in my 78 Midget. It=E2=80=99s a bit narrower than a 2=
4 and
>>> easier to get behind the heater with out removing the bonnet. You can g=
et
>>> the same CCA as a 24, and maybe more with modern batter tech.
>>>
>>> I never thought about AGM,  but it is certainly worth looking into
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> On Aug 14, 2022, at 9:16 PM, Dave and Terri Woerpel via Spridgets <
>>> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Steve, found the following from Frank from 16 years ago!  Group 24 is
>>> what I use in a high back open front battery box ala TR 3....ya I know,=
 but
>>> 45 years and no holes.
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave W
>>> '59 :()
>>> '59 MGA 1500
>>> Burlington WI
>>> "Pay It Forward"
>>> WWFD?
>>>
>>>
>>> Mail From: Frank Clarici <(email redacted)>
>>>
>>> Group 24
>>> or is is series 24?
>>> But this only fits the early Spridgets up to whenever they made the
>>> heater different. Then you need a group 22 (I think)
>>> Now back to the 24 battery... originally they came with the terminals u=
p
>>> against the firewall, this caused the firewalls to rot out from the
>>> gasses of the battery. So if your little bumped out spots have rust,
>>> it's the battery. Correct from the factory is a bad thing so go with th=
e
>>> battery where the posts are outboard from the firewall. No more eaten
>>> out firewalls this way.
>>> Not Concours, better =F0=9F=99=82
>>> --
>>> Frank Clarici
>>> Toms River, NJ
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2022, 10:58 AM Steve Williams via Spridgets <
>>> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for sharing the article.
>>>>
>>>> I believe I am in need of a battery for the bugeye. Anyone know the
>>>> correct battery size off the top of their head? Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Steve Williams
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, August 13, 2022, 07:48:19 PM EDT, Michael MacLean via
>>>> Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Interesting article from Hagerty on the rising values of MG Midgets.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.hagerty.com/media/market-trends/hagerty-insider/hot-streak=
-these-5-cars-have-been-ticking-up-longer-than-any-other/?utm_source=3DSFMC=
&utm_medium=3Demail&utm_content=3DMED_UN_NA_EML_UN_SaturdayRoadTrip&hashed_=
email=3Daa0474ebb967bc3dd3d68e7cea6ee8439f873a0f9c8596d0243456c710f7db1c
>>>>
>>>> Maybe a rising tide lifts all boats...
>>>>
>>>> Mike MacLean
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>>
>>
>> --
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>> 2017 Home built shed full of excess spridget parts!!!
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">List,<div>How do I know which battery I have in my vehicle=
s, the AGM (absorbed glass mat) or the other such as=C2=A0Group 24 flooded =
lead acid? I believe I ate 2 batteries on tenders this past winter. I would=
 like to get a small in size, sealed battery for my Sprite because I have t=
o remove the hood otherwise. However the sealed=C2=A0batteries can&#39;t be=
 tender charged because they are sealed.=C2=A0 I&#39;m not sure if the batt=
eries I have are any good as this is the first week I&#39;m home long enoug=
h to check. None of my batteries are sealed. Can I assume the=C2=A0type of =
batteries I have are written on the battery or is there another test to det=
ermine which type I have?=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Let me understand =
this, the AGM battery cannot be tender charged or they will die. But not ne=
cessarily=C2=A0sealed?=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://ww=
w.batterystuff.com/kb/articles/5-battery-types-explained-sealed-agm-gel.htm=
l">https://www.batterystuff.com/kb/articles/5-battery-types-explained-seale=
d-agm-gel.html</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thank you ki=
ndly,</div><div>Linda=C2=A0</div><div>62 California Sprite &quot;Pinky&quot=
;</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
 class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 8:56 PM Michael MacLean via S=
pridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net";>spridgets@autox.te=
am.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;borde=
r-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I use=
 AGM batteries in my Harley Davidson.=C2=A0 If they go down I just put it o=
n a smart charger the night before I use the bike.=C2=A0 Battery has lasted=
 for quite awhile this way.</div><div>Mike MacLean<br></div></div><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 15,=
 2022 at 12:03 PM CosmicMag1380 via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridge=
ts@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.=
8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">AGM batteries are a good choic=
e but not if you store your car with a tender on it. Trickle charging will =
&quot;cook&quot; an AGM. Absorptive Glass Mat will dry out when slowly char=
ged and ruin the battery. A fast, high amp charger is better if the battery=
 goes down. I usually disconnect mine in the winer and charge it once in th=
e spring before driving.=C2=A0</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 12:00 PM Larry Macy v=
ia Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_bla=
nk">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-=
left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>=
I used a group 51 in my 78 Midget. It=E2=80=99s a bit narrower than a 24 an=
d easier to get behind the heater with out removing the bonnet. You can get=
 the same CCA as a 24, and maybe more with modern batter tech.=C2=A0<div><b=
r></div><div>I never thought about AGM, =C2=A0but it is certainly worth loo=
king into=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Larry<br><div><br><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><div>On Aug 14, 2022, at 9:16 PM, Dave and Terri Woerpel via Spri=
dgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">spr=
idgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><div><div dir=3D"auto"><div d=
ir=3D"auto">Steve, found the following from Frank from 16 years ago!=C2=A0 =
Group 24 is what I use in a high back open front battery box ala TR 3....ya=
 I know, but 45 years and no holes.</div><div dir=3D"auto">Regards,</div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto">Dave W</div><div dir=3D"auto">&#39;59 :()</div><div dir=3D"=
auto">&#39;59 MGA 1500</div><div dir=3D"auto">Burlington WI=C2=A0</div><div=
 dir=3D"auto">&quot;Pay It Forward&quot;</div><div dir=3D"auto">WWFD?</div>=
<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><span style=3D"font-weight:700;font-family:aria=
l,helvetica;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div dir=3D"a=
uto"><span style=3D"font-weight:700;font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:1=
3px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div>Mail From: Frank Cl=
arici &lt;(email redacted)&gt;</span><br style=3D"font-family:arial,helveti=
ca;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br style=3D"font-fami=
ly:arial,helvetica;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span =
style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(25=
5,255,255)">Group 24</span><br style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-si=
ze:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style=3D"font-family:arial=
,helvetica;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">or is is serie=
s 24?</span><br style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:13px;backgro=
und-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font=
-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">But this only fits the early =
Spridgets up to whenever they made the</span><br style=3D"font-family:arial=
,helvetica;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style=3D=
"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,25=
5)">heater different. Then you need a group 22 (I think)</span><br style=3D=
"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,25=
5)"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:13px;background-co=
lor:rgb(255,255,255)">Now back to the 24 battery... originally they came wi=
th the terminals up</span><br style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-siz=
e:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,=
helvetica;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">against the fir=
ewall, this caused the firewalls to rot out from the</span><br style=3D"fon=
t-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">=
<span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:13px;background-color:=
rgb(255,255,255)">gasses of the battery. So if your little bumped out spots=
 have rust,</span><br style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:13px;b=
ackground-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetic=
a;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">it&#39;s the battery. C=
orrect from the factory is a bad thing so go with the</span><br style=3D"fo=
nt-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"=
><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:13px;background-color=
:rgb(255,255,255)">battery where the posts are outboard from the firewall. =
No more eaten</span><br style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:13px=
;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvet=
ica;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">out firewalls this wa=
y.</span><br><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;f=
ont-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Not Concours, better =F0=
=9F=99=82</span><br style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:13px;bac=
kground-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;=
font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">--</span><br style=3D"fon=
t-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">=
<span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:13px;background-color:=
rgb(255,255,255)">Frank Clarici</span><br style=3D"font-family:arial,helvet=
ica;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style=3D"font-f=
amily:arial,helvetica;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Tom=
s River, NJ</span><span style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:13px=
;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 14, 2022=
, 10:58 AM Steve Williams via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@aut=
ox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bo=
rder-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,2=
04);padding-left:1ex"><div>                Thanks for sharing the article.<=
br><br>I believe I am in need of a battery for the bugeye. Anyone know the =
correct battery size off the top of their head? Thanks!<br><br>Steve Willia=
ms<br><br>            </div>            <div style=3D"margin:10px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex">                        <div style=3D"font-fam=
ily:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;co=
lor:rgb(38,40,42)">                                <div>                   =
 On Saturday, August 13, 2022, 07:48:19 PM EDT, Michael MacLean via Spridge=
ts &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer" targe=
t=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:                </div> =
               <div><br></div>                <div><br></div>              =
  <div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-4144561714177845142gmail-m_8006517379914693865gm=
ail-m_1454150687853352107m_-951126832435264800yiv1708564400"><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><div>Interesting article from Hagerty on the rising values of MG Midgets=
.</div><div><br></div><div><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer noreferre=
r" href=3D"https://www.hagerty.com/media/market-trends/hagerty-insider/hot-=
streak-these-5-cars-have-been-ticking-up-longer-than-any-other/?utm_source=
=3DSFMC&amp;utm_medium=3Demail&amp;utm_content=3DMED_UN_NA_EML_UN_SaturdayR=
oadTrip&amp;hashed_email=3Daa0474ebb967bc3dd3d68e7cea6ee8439f873a0f9c8596d0=
243456c710f7db1c" target=3D"_blank">https://www.hagerty.com/media/market-tr=
ends/hagerty-insider/hot-streak-these-5-cars-have-been-ticking-up-longer-th=
an-any-other/?utm_source=3DSFMC&amp;utm_medium=3Demail&amp;utm_content=3DME=
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ea6ee8439f873a0f9c8596d0243456c710f7db1c</a></div><div><br></div><div>Maybe=
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div>--=C2=A0<br><br>Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.<br><a href=3D"mailto:lmacy@mac.com=
" target=3D"_blank">lmacy@mac.com</a><br><br></div><div><br></div><div>Only=
 when the last tree has died and the last river has been poisoned and the l=
ast fish has been caught, will we realize that we can not eat money</div></=
div></div>
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et=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>
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Archive: <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets"; rel=3D"norefer=
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ets/cosmicmag1380@gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://au=
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</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>Kent<br>1960 Bugeye<br>1983 Garage full of spridget parts!<br>2017 Home bu=
ilt shed full of excess spridget parts!!!<br>=C2=A0<br><br></div>
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ets/springer.mike51@gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://=
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ets/grunthaner@gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://autox=
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