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To: Kent McLean <kentmclean@comcast.net> onXl5T7gJ+F+SbHMXALJFU43gwxgpk29MlRaVp0YcnQUPovK7lDHSZjeWp3Z79/5Nr1FPOELt9lVjZK938ScsI91n95YIw0GA0qV0aD21LzXx6Jkh0B6wLCF
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tags and Titles rules for a Brit!
From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 13:37:25 -0400
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Hi Daniel.

A little misinformation in some of the answers so far.  :-) =20

In some states the license plate stays with the car for it's entire life, as=
 long as the car stays in the state and is not sold and registered in anothe=
r state.  California is one state for example where the plate stays with the=
 car for it's entire life.   If a used car is sold the new owner gets a new t=
itle and registration in his name, but the same plate is used.  In Michigan w=
here I live now the plate stays with the driver and gets transferred from ca=
r to car.  You can also get a new license plate here whenever you want.  The=
 plates in Michigan are replaced by the state after a certain number of year=
s because they deteriorate in our weather.

Many states have inspections for emissions control equipment.  California is=
 one such state, and while car guys hate smog devices they do work.  I lived=
 in California back in the sixties and I remember times when you could liter=
ally not see three blocks down the road because of the smog.  We had regular=
 smog alerts when the kids at school were not allowed to go outside because j=
ust breathing the air was the equivalent of smoking two packs of cigarettes a=
 day.  Michigan has no smog inspections.  We just let our pollution blow ove=
r to Canada and New York. =20

Safety inspections are left up to the individual states, some have them some=
 don't.  However, the states with very thorough safety inpections have the s=
ame accident rates as states with no inspections, so in my opinion they are r=
eally nothing but a money grab by the state.  No one seems to be able to pro=
ve that the "safety" inspections do any good at all other than providing an i=
ncome source for the state and the inspection station operators.

One other thing no one has mentioned is that some states require a plate on t=
he front and rear of the car while others (such as Michigan) only require a p=
late on the rear.  The plate is mostly used to identify a vehicle trying to l=
eave the scene of an incident.  How often does someone back away from the sc=
ene of a crime? =20

Rick

> On Sep 6, 2021, at 6:00 AM, Kent McLean via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.tea=
m.net> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFWeslake1330 wrote:
>> So the tag is what I'd call the number plate
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> Correct. Also called a license plate.
>=20
>> and each year you have to pay the government ('the man'?)
>> for a sticker that says you are paying something like road tax on it
>=20
> It goes by various names, but yes. Registration (with fees that various by=
 state and possibly by city/town) gets you your number plate. That plate doe=
s not stay with the car forever. You sell the car, you turn in the plate and=
 the new owner gets a new plate. Some states also charge an excise tax, so t=
hey can make more money. I think NY City also adds a city tax. Taxation with=
 representation.
>=20
>> or that it has passed annual inspection? =20
>=20
> That is separate from your license plate. Like your MOT, some states requi=
re an annual safety inspection. Some don't. Some also require an emissions t=
est. Some states have regions that require an emissions test. YMMV depending=
 on where you live.
>=20
> The US and Great Britain, two countries separated by  common language. :)
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> Kent=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Daniel.</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">A little misinformation in some of the answ=
ers so far. &nbsp;:-) &nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">In some states the license plate stays with the car for it's entire life, a=
s long as the car stays in the state and is not sold and registered in anoth=
er state. &nbsp;California is one state for example where the plate stays wi=
th the car for it's entire life. &nbsp; If a used car is sold the new owner g=
ets a new title and registration in his name, but the same plate is used. &n=
bsp;In Michigan where I live now the plate stays with the driver and gets tr=
ansferred from car to car. &nbsp;You can also get a new license plate here w=
henever you want. &nbsp;The plates in Michigan are replaced by the state aft=
er a certain number of years because they deteriorate in our weather.</div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Many states have inspections for e=
missions control equipment. &nbsp;California is one such state, and while ca=
r guys hate smog devices they do work. &nbsp;I lived in California back in t=
he sixties and I remember times when you could literally not see three block=
s down the road because of the smog. &nbsp;We had regular smog alerts when t=
he kids at school were not allowed to go outside because just breathing the a=
ir was the equivalent of smoking two packs of cigarettes a day. &nbsp;Michig=
an has no smog inspections. &nbsp;We just let our pollution blow over to Can=
ada and New York. &nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sa=
fety inspections are left up to the individual states, some have them some d=
on't. &nbsp;However, the states with very thorough safety inpections have th=
e same accident rates as states with no inspections, so in my opinion they a=
re really nothing but a money grab by the state. &nbsp;No one seems to be ab=
le to prove that the "safety" inspections do any good at all other than prov=
iding an income source for the state and the inspection station operators.</=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">One other thing no one has m=
entioned is that some states require a plate on the front and rear of the ca=
r while others (such as Michigan) only require a plate on the rear. &nbsp;Th=
e plate is mostly used to identify a vehicle trying to leave the scene of an=
 incident. &nbsp;How often does someone back away from the scene of a crime?=
 &nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Rick</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Sep 6, 2021, at 6:00 AM, Kent McLean v=
ia Spridgets &lt;spridgets@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></d=
iv><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"C=
ontent-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii"><span style=3D"font-f=
amily: Palatino-Roman;" class=3D"">Weslake1330</span>&nbsp;wrote:<div><block=
quote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><meta charset=3D"UTF-8" class=
=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman;=
 font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight=
: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-=
transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke=
-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;=
" class=3D"">So the tag is what I'd call&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"caret-co=
lor: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-style:=
 normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: nor=
mal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:=
 normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration:=
 none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">the number plate=
 </span></div></blockquote><div><br class=3D""></div><div>Correct. Also call=
ed a license plate.</div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""=
><div class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Pala=
tino-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; f=
ont-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0=
px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-te=
xt-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !i=
mportant;" class=3D"">and each year you have to pay the government ('the man=
'?)</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roma=
n; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weig=
ht: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; tex=
t-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stro=
ke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color=
: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-style: no=
rmal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal=
; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: no=
rmal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: no=
ne; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">for a sticker that s=
ays you are paying something like road tax on it </span></div></blockquote><=
div><br class=3D""></div><div>It goes by various names, but yes. Registratio=
n (with fees that various by state and possibly by city/town) gets you your n=
umber plate. That plate does not stay with the car forever. You sell the car=
, you turn in the plate and the new owner gets a new plate. Some states also=
 charge an excise tax, so they can make more money. I think NY City also add=
s a city tax. Taxation with representation.</div><br class=3D""><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0=
, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font=
-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-ali=
gn: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word=
-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float:=
 none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">or&nbsp;</span><span style=3D=
"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Palatino-Roman; font-size: 18px; fo=
nt-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spa=
cing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; whi=
te-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-de=
coration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">that it=
 has passed annual inspection? &nbsp;</span></div></blockquote></div><br cla=
ss=3D""><div class=3D"">That is separate from your license plate. Like your M=
OT, some states require an annual safety inspection. Some don't. Some also r=
equire an emissions test. Some states have regions that require an emissions=
 test. YMMV depending on where you live.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""=
></div><div class=3D"">The US and Great Britain, two countries separated by &=
nbsp;common language. :)</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div clas=
s=3D"">Kent&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">'56 100</div><div class=3D"">'60 Spri=
te</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><span>------------------------<=
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