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Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No Castrol DOT 3 available : (
From: Bob Kitterer via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 06:56:41 -0700
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Linda,

Silicone (DOT 5) WILL NOT MIX with other brake fluids.  Perhaps you meant sy=
nthetic (DOT 4) which will mix with Dot 3. =20

Silicone does not trap water like DOT 3 but is harder to bleed as it will tr=
ap air.  I have used silicone for about 20 years but only because it does no=
t eat paint the way other brake fluids do.  It also has a softer pedal feel t=
han DOT 3 and I assume DOT 4 with which I have no experience.

Bob  Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2013 Miata

Pay it Forward
Thanks Frank


> On Jun 24, 2019, at 2:07 AM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <spridgets@aut=
ox.team.net> wrote:
>=20
> Wow Bob, they seem like a one way valve, is that how they work?
> I have decided to replace everything that as rubber as this color of fluid=
 and now looking at the bottom of the vac unit black particles. I will add t=
hese valves and after I replace the master cylinder, both wheel cylinders an=
d all 3 hoses I'll use the silicone brake fluid as it will keep the system w=
ater free here is wet New Jersey. I'm trying to reach Peter Calldwell now at=
 World Wide Auto Parts.
>=20
> See image attached.
> Thanks for your help,
> Linda
>=20
> 62 California Sprite "Pinky
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>> On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 8:43 PM Bob Spruck <raspruck@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If you don't have a partner to help bleed the brakes, you ought to get a s=
et of Speed Bleeders, per the attached:
>>=20
>> Speed Bleeder sizes:=20
>>=20
>> Clutch (all Spridgets)   3/8 x 24
>>=20
>> Disc brakes 3/8 x 24
>>=20
>> Front drum brakes 3/8 x 24
>>=20
>> Rear brakes (1 piston 1/4 elliptical leaf springs) 3/8 x 24
>>=20
>> Rear brakes (2 piston wheel cylinder, semi elliptical leaf springs) 1/4 x=
 28
>>=20
>> Summit and many others have them. Do a Google search or call Spridget Man=
ia, Winners Circle, World Wide Auto Parts, Little British Motor Company, etc=
.
>>=20
>> Also, that jug of LMA sure looks old and dirty. Since brake fluid is hydr=
oscopic (absorbs water) you might want to not use old, left over stuff. Stor=
e it with a piece of Saran Wrap under the cap. Keep the old stuff as a paint=
 remover :)
>>=20
>> Bob
>>=20
>> '59 Bugeye
>> '72 Midget
>> '67 Midget Vintage Racer
>> 6+ parts cars
>>=20
>>> On 6/23/2019 3:56 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets wrote:
>>> Hi Spridgiteers,
>>> I want to bleed my brakes but the stores or Amazon nolonger carries Cast=
rol GT LMA DOT3 brake fluid. I thought I had a few bottles left but I was wr=
ong and have her on stands patiently waiting for her fluid. Yesterday I took=
 her out for the first time and needed a little more fluid before heading ou=
t. I only drove 8 blocks and while sitting at a light the peddle went to the=
 floor. I quickly pumped the brake and it was fine to get home. I put her on=
 stands in the driveway getting ready to bleed as I suspected an air bubble b=
ut no store carries Castrol GT LMA Dot 3 any more. Suggestions please. One o=
f the members on a Facebook Spridget group said to flush and add Castrol DOT=
4 which is synthetic, he said I wouldn't need to replace the wheel cylinders=
 or the master cylinder I I did that but I am by myself and use a stick to h=
old the peddle using a tube into fluid to prevent air, I have a one handed b=
lender but I couldn't get it to work properly. Maybe I should look at a yout=
ube.
>>>=20
>>> What would Frank say?
>>> Linda
>>> 62 California Sprite "Pinky"
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Linda,<div><br></div><div>Silicone (DOT 5) W=
ILL NOT MIX with other brake fluids. &nbsp;Perhaps you meant synthetic (DOT 4=
) which will mix with Dot 3. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Silicone does n=
ot trap water like DOT 3 but is harder to bleed as it will trap air. &nbsp;I=
 have used silicone for about 20 years but only because it does not eat pain=
t the way other brake fluids do. &nbsp;It also has a softer pedal feel than D=
OT 3 and I assume DOT 4 with which I have no experience.<br><br><div id=3D"A=
ppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"text-align: -webkit-auto; back=
ground-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Bob &nbsp;Kitterer</span><div><span s=
tyle=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0); text-align: -webkit-auto; f=
ont-size: 13pt;"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"background-color: rgba=
(255, 255, 255, 0); text-align: -webkit-auto; font-size: 13pt;">1960 Austin H=
ealey Sprite&nbsp;(Mk IV in disguise)</span></div><div><span style=3D"backgr=
ound-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0); text-align: -webkit-auto; font-size: 13p=
t;">1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk&nbsp;III (Trevor) - still in boxes</span></=
div><div><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0); text-align=
: -webkit-auto; font-size: 13pt;">2013 Miata</span></div><div><span style=3D=
"font-size: 13pt; text-align: -webkit-auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255,=
 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size: 13pt; text-align:=
 -webkit-auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Pay it Forward</sp=
an></div><div><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0); text-=
align: -webkit-auto; font-size: 13pt;">Thanks Frank</span><br><br></div></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jun 24, 2019, at 2:07 AM, Linda Grunthaner via Spr=
idgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net";>spridgets@autox.team.=
net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
div dir=3D"ltr">Wow Bob, they seem like a one way valve, is that how they wo=
rk?<div>I have decided to replace everything that as rubber as this color of=
 fluid and now looking at the bottom of the vac unit black particles. I will=
 add these valves and after I replace the master cylinder, both wheel cylind=
ers and all 3 hoses I'll use the silicone brake fluid as it will keep the sy=
stem water free here is wet New Jersey. I'm trying to reach Peter Calldwell n=
ow at World Wide Auto Parts.</div><div><br></div><div>See image attached.</d=
iv><div>Thanks for your help,</div><div>Linda</div><div><br></div><div>62 Ca=
lifornia Sprite "Pinky</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D=
"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 8:43 PM Bob Spruck &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:raspruck@gmail.com";>raspruck@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></d=
iv><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;borde=
r-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);=
padding-left:1ex">
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  <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF">
    <p>
      </p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"-2"><span style=3D"font-size:=
26pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><font size=3D"-1">If you don't have a par=
tner to help bleed the
              brakes, you ought to get a set of Speed Bleeders, per the
              attached:</font></span></font></p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font size=3D"-1"><span style=3D"font-size:26pt=
;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Speed
            Bleeder sizes:</span></font><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,san=
s-serif">
          <br>
        </span></p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Cl=
utch
          (all
          Spridgets)&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/8 x 24</span></p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Di=
sc
          brakes
          3/8 x 24</span></p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Fron=
t
          drum
          brakes&nbsp;3/8 x 24</span></p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Re=
ar
          brakes
          (1 piston 1/4 elliptical leaf springs) 3/8 x 24</span></p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Re=
ar
          brakes
          (2 piston wheel cylinder, semi elliptical leaf springs)&nbsp;1/4 x=

          28</span></p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Su=
mmit
          and many others have them. Do a Google search or call Spridget
          Mania, Winners Circle, World Wide Auto Parts, Little British
          Motor Company, etc.<br>
        </span></p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Al=
so,
          that jug of LMA sure looks old and dirty. Since brake fluid is
          hydroscopic (absorbs water) you might want to not use old,
          left over stuff. Store it with a piece of Saran Wrap under the
          cap. Keep the old stuff as a paint remover :)</span></p>
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Bo=
b</span></p>
      <span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">'59
        Bugeye</span><br>
      <span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">'72
        Midget</span><br>
      <span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">'67
        Midget Vintage Racer</span><br>
      <span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">6+
        parts cars<br>
      </span><br>
    <p></p>
    <div class=3D"gmail-m_-7747587434667050125moz-cite-prefix">On 6/23/2019 3=
:56 PM, Linda Grunthaner
      via Spridgets wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Spridgiteers,
        <div>I want to bleed my brakes but the stores or Amazon nolonger
          carries Castrol GT LMA DOT3 brake fluid. I thought I had a few
          bottles left but I was wrong and have her on stands patiently
          waiting for her fluid. Yesterday I took her out for the first
          time and needed a little more fluid before heading out. I only
          drove 8 blocks and while sitting at a light the peddle went to
          the floor. I quickly pumped the brake and it was fine to get
          home. I put her on stands in the driveway getting ready to
          bleed as I suspected an air bubble but no store carries
          Castrol GT LMA Dot 3 any more. Suggestions please. One of the
          members on a Facebook Spridget group said to flush and add
          Castrol DOT4 which is synthetic, he said I wouldn't need to
          replace the wheel cylinders or the master cylinder I I did
          that but I am by myself and use a stick to hold the peddle
          using a tube into fluid to prevent air, I have a one handed
          blender but I couldn't get it to work properly. Maybe I should
          look at a youtube.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>What would Frank say?</div>
        <div>Linda</div>
        <div>62 California Sprite "Pinky"</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          -- <br>
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ure">
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                forward" in honor of Frank Clarici III, Spritenut</span><br>=

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        </div>
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