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I use 100 octane LL avgas in my small engines. It's pricey compared to auto=
gas, but works so much better it's worth the extra cost. My 39 year old sn=
owblower thinks the stuff is wonderful. :-)
Sent from my keyboard
> On Jan 28, 2015, at 12:59 PM, CosmicMag1380 via Spridgets <spridgets@autox=
.team.net> wrote:
>=20
> Two points to ponder... The first is ether in a diesel. Back in the day I w=
orked for Avis Truck Division and we leased/rented trucks. We used to get se=
mis back with blown engines. The drivers would use the onboard cold weather s=
tarting system (ether injection) to boost power when going up long, steep hi=
lls. It is kind of like using NOX for a second too long! Bang, you broke it.=
..
> =20
> The second is using ether to start a 2 stroke motor. Bad choice because it=
washes the oil off the cylinders and can make it possible for scoring to oc=
cur. The rings dig into the cylinder wall and leave a groove (scored) whereb=
y the compression leaks out into the crankcase.
> =20
> Today's pump gas degrades much faster than ever before. If you can find ga=
s with no ethanol, use that in your small engines and you will not experienc=
e so many starting/running issues.
> =20
> My 02,
> =20
> Kent
>=20
>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Cebridge via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.=
team.net> wrote:
>> Ether ( starting fluid) should not even be in a car persons vocabulary!! H=
ave seen soooo many motors turned into junk because of it. Ever seen the he=
ad studs ripped out of the block of a diesel engine or a rod snapped in half=
!!=20
>> Ill always opt for gasoline vapors off of a rag with gas on it. Just my m=
ileage lol
>>=20
>> Leo
>>=20
>>=20
>>> On Jan 27, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.t=
eam.net> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> Most starting fluid is ether, which is a LOT more volatile than gasoline=
. That's why a balky engine will fire up on the stuff. It does work in two=
-stroke engines, but in any engine only use the smallest amount you can get a=
way with. Be especially careful with the two-strokes as they are lubed by t=
he fuel-oil mixture and starting fluid washes the oil away.
>>>=20
>>> Sent from my keyboard
>>>=20
>>>> On Jan 27, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner@gmail.com> wr=
ote:
>>>>=20
>>>> Spridget Professors,
>>>> Thanks so much again for all the help, you guys are so important to me.=
I remember telling Frank when we went to pick up my Bugeye only a year or t=
wo before he left us that besides being sad that my father passed away I was=
technically lost not knowing where to get good answers to my technical ques=
tions. But you guys on this list and Frank's genius put my mind at ease. Wit=
h threads like these I feel like I just walked out of a classroom with brill=
iant instructors that made the class the best class ever.
>>>>=20
>>>> Snow was 12"-18" and no need for the genny but so happy I have it ready=
for both myself and my neighbor and her 2 small boys and any friends or fam=
ily with there pets that will come over if needed. I tried to post my youtub=
e of the genny running but forgot my youtube password. I'll try again after I=
shovel the snow as it will freeze tonight and some more snow later in the w=
eek.=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Special thanks to:
>>>>=20
>>>> Rick
>>>> Kevin
>>>> Trevor=20
>>>> Guy
>>>> Hal=20
>>>> Peter=20
>>>> John=20
>>>> Billy
>>>>=20
>>>> Happy Spridgeting, and thank you Professors,
>>>> Linda : )
>>>>=20
>>>> PS If anyone can tell me why is it that when ever I finally end up usin=
g starting fluid most engines fire right up and can I use it in a 2 stroke e=
ngine carburetor being they use oil and gas mixture. My weed wacker and my c=
hain saw kill me arm trying to get them started after sitting a week or two.=
>>>>=20
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Rick Fisk <refisk@chartermi.net> wro=
te:
>>>>> Woohoo! Glad you got it going. Hope the storm leaves you alone and y=
ou don't need it. :-)
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Sent from my keyboard
>>>>>=20
>>>>>> On Jan 26, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <spridget=
s@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> She runs.....Yippi.
>>>>>> I got spark with both plugs and it didn't start then I sprayed Starti=
ng fluid and didn't start, then I put the spray hose way into the carb and i=
t must have reached it and she fired right up.
>>>>>> Thank you all for your help. It's this list with great guys that got m=
e there as always I love you guys!
>>>>>> Stay safe and warm.
>>>>>> Linda
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:13 PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik@gmail.com> wr=
ote:
>>>>>>> I vote with Hal. You can't leave new gas in the tank for long befor=
e it goes bad. Friend had a similar problem with a chain saw and took it in=
for repair. The old gas was drained and replaced with fresh. Everything w=
as fine. Small engine guy told him most of his repairs now were fixing bad g=
asoline. I'd try draining all the old stuff, not just some of it.
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <sp=
ridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I would hate to drain 6 gallons of gas it would take a long time. I=
added 2 gallons to the 4 that I started with. My little Sprite always runs w=
ith year old gas.
>>>>>>>> I really wish I got a genny with elect start.=20
>>>>>>>> Off I go.
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Hal Faulkner via Spridgets <sprid=
gets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Lin,
>>>>>>>>> If there is any of the old petrol left in the tank drain it and re=
place with fresh! Modern fuels will absorb water and become quite unusable.=
=20
>>>>>>>>> I also recommend that you switch to an alternator.....
>>>>>>>>> Hal
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>I use 100 octane LL avgas in my small e=
ngines. It's pricey compared to auto gas, but works so much better it'=
s worth the extra cost. My 39 year old snowblower thinks the stuff is w=
onderful. :-)<br><br>Sent from my keyboard</div><div><br>On Jan 28, 20=
15, at 12:59 PM, CosmicMag1380 via Spridgets <<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets=
@autox.team.net">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Two points to ponder... The f=
irst is ether in a diesel. Back in the day I worked for Avis Truck Divi=
sion and we leased/rented trucks. We used to get semis back with blown engin=
es. The drivers would use the onboard cold weather starting system =
;(ether injection) to boost power when going up long, steep hills. It is kin=
d of like using NOX for a second too long! Bang, you broke it...</div><div>&=
nbsp;</div><div>The second is using ether to start a 2 stroke motor. Bad cho=
ice because it washes the oil off the cylinders and can make it possible for=
scoring to occur. The rings dig into the cylinder wall and leave a groove (=
scored) whereby the compression leaks out into the crankcase.</div><div>&nbs=
p;</div><div>Today's pump gas degrades much faster than ever before. If you c=
an find gas with no ethanol, use that in your small engines and you will not=
experience so many starting/running issues.</div><div> </div><div>My 0=
2,</div><div> </div><div>Kent</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Cebridge via Sp=
ridgets <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc soli=
d;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>Ether ( starting fluid) should no=
t even be in a car persons vocabulary!! Have seen soooo many motors turned i=
nto junk because of it. Ever seen the head studs ripped out of the blo=
ck of a diesel engine or a rod snapped in half !! </div><div>Ill always=
opt for gasoline vapors off of a rag with gas on it. Just my mileage l=
ol</div><div><br></div><div>Leo<br><br></div><div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br=
>On Jan 27, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <<a href=3D"mailto=
:spridgets@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>>=
; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div>Most starting flui=
d is ether, which is a LOT more volatile than gasoline. That's why a b=
alky engine will fire up on the stuff. It does work in two-stroke engi=
nes, but in any engine only use the smallest amount you can get away with.&n=
bsp; Be especially careful with the two-strokes as they are lubed by the fue=
l-oil mixture and starting fluid washes the oil away.<br><br>Sent from my ke=
yboard</div><div><br>On Jan 27, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Linda Grunthaner <<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:grunthaner@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">grunthaner@gmail.com</a=
>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><d=
iv>Spridget Professors,</div>Thanks so much again for all the help, you guys=
are so important to me. I remember telling Frank when we went to pick up my=
Bugeye only a year or two before he left us that besides being sad that my f=
ather passed away I was technically lost not knowing where to get good answe=
rs to my technical questions. But you guys on this list and Frank's genius p=
ut my mind at ease. With threads like these I feel like I just walked out of=
a classroom with brilliant instructors that made the class the best class e=
ver.<div><br></div><div>Snow was 12"-18" and no need for the genny but so ha=
ppy I have it ready for both myself and my neighbor and her 2 small boys and=
any friends or family with there pets that will come over if needed. I trie=
d to post my youtube of the genny running but forgot my youtube password. I'=
ll try again after I shovel the snow as it will freeze tonight and some more=
snow later in the week. </div><div><br></div><div>Special thanks to:</=
div><div><br></div><div>Rick</div><div>Kevin</div><div>Trevor </div><di=
v>Guy</div><div>Hal </div><div>Peter </div><div>John </div><d=
iv>Billy</div><div><br></div><div>Happy Spridgeting, and thank you Professor=
s,</div><div>Linda : )</div><div><br></div><div>PS If anyone can tell me why=
is it that when ever I finally end up using starting fluid most engines fir=
e right up and can I use it in a 2 stroke engine carburetor being they use o=
il and gas mixture. My weed wacker and my chain saw kill me arm trying to ge=
t them started after sitting a week or two.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_e=
xtra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Rick =
Fisk <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:refisk@chartermi.net"; target=3D=
"_blank">refisk@chartermi.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-=
color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div d=
ir=3D"auto"><div>Woohoo! Glad you got it going. Hope the storm l=
eaves you alone and you don't need it. :-)<br><br>Sent from my keyboar=
d</div><div><div><div><br>On Jan 26, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Linda Grunthaner via S=
pridgets <<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">s=
pridgets@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">She runs.....Yippi.<div>I got spark with both plugs a=
nd it didn't start then I sprayed Starting fluid and didn't start, then I pu=
t the spray hose way into the carb and it must have reached it and she fired=
right up.</div><div>Thank you all for your help. It's this list with great g=
uys that got me there as always I love you guys!</div><div>Stay safe and war=
m.</div><div>Linda</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:13 PM, HealeyRick <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">healeyrik@gmail.c=
om</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);bord=
er-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir=3D"ltr">I vote with Hal.=
You can't leave new gas in the tank for long before it goes bad. =
; Friend had a similar problem with a chain saw and took it in for repair.&n=
bsp; The old gas was drained and replaced with fresh. Everything was f=
ine. Small engine guy told him most of his repairs now were fixing bad=
gasoline. I'd try draining all the old stuff, not just some of it.<di=
v class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span>On Mon, Jan 26,=
2015 at 6:40 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.tea=
m.net</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204=
,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><span><div dir=3D"ltr">=
I would hate to drain 6 gallons of gas it would take a long time. I added 2 g=
allons to the 4 that I started with. My little Sprite always runs with year o=
ld gas.<div>I really wish I got a genny with elect start. </div><div>Of=
f I go.</div></div></span><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote"><span>On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Hal Faulkner via Spridgets <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_b=
lank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;bord=
er-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid=
"><span><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Lin,<br></div>If there is any of the=
old petrol left in the tank drain it and replace with fresh! Modern f=
uels will absorb water and become quite unusable. <br></div>I also rec=
ommend that you switch to an alternator.....<br></div>Hal<br></div></span><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-col=
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