I knew the Allison was a poorer performer, but was unsure why. Thanks for
the info.
Larry
>>>>On 6/18/00 10:29 PM so and so (Michael Lupynec) said. (And I quote:)
>The only problem with the Allison was insufficient supercharging
>at altitude. Had the horsepower (and sounded better than the
>Merlin) below 10,000 feet, but could not compete at 20,000 feet
>plus.
>
>Merlins were built by Rolls Royce and also licensed to Packard.
>Still are regarded as temperamental and weak in the top end.
>
>"You can fly a radial further than you can ship a Merlin"
>
>Mike L.
>60A,67E,59Bug
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Larry Macy <macy@bblmail.psycha.upenn.edu>
>To: Charles Christ <cfchrist@earthlink.net>; Kent J. Miller
><Bushwacker4@prodigy.net>; Spridgets <Spridgets@autox.team.net>
>Sent: June 18, 2000 5:29 PM
>Subject: Re: Sweet Sounds
>
>
>> As I recall the Allison engine was only fitted to the early
>Mustangs, B
>> and C models. They lacked the performance of the Merlin. The
>P-51D, the
>> one everybody knows and loves, only had the Merlins fitted, but
>I beleive
>> they were manufactured here in the US. The D model is the one
>with the
>> bubble canopy. The earlier models had a canopy and a "backbone"
>not
>> unlike the Flying Tigers P41's. The Bubble was added for the C
>model I
>> beleive. Better visibliity - not unlike top down motoring in the
>Midget
>> (mandatory LBC content). There were also later model Mustangs
>and by the
>> time the G models were built in the early 50's they were known
>as F-51's.
>> The newly created Air Force had some idea about redesignating
>thet class
>> of aircraft as a "F"ighter, rather than a "P"ursuit aircraft.
>>
>> But give me a P-38. I like the styling better. Also the first
>known prop
>> driven aircraft to best the sound barrier. Although who really
>knows what
>> was done with a an ME-262 on your tail? (and Yea I know Hitler
>wanted
>> them all to be bombers but few were actually used that way.)
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> >>>>On 6/15/00 5:33 PM so and so (Charles Christ) said. (And I
>quote:)
>>
>> >p-51 allison v-12, and some models had the rolls royce merlin
>v-12
>> >spitfires were all rolls royce powered i believe. as a child i
>have had a
>> >ride in both planes compliments ofthe experimental aircraft
>association fly
>> >ins in rockford illnois and later oshkosh wis. . all i had to
>do was help
>> >the owners clean their planes and ask for a ride in exchange,
>with my
>> >parents consent. my dad had a pt-26 flight trainer which was
>the fairchild
>> >pt-19 outfitted with a canvas dome shaped hood for rear pilot
>to train for
>> >instrument flying. we also had a j-3 piper cub and an old pre
>war stinson
>> >that was radial powered. you guys are right about the sounds
>of these
>> >engines. i tend to run out of my shop when i hear an old
>familiar growl
>> >clawing for air over the shop.
>> >
>> >chuck.
>> >way too calorie challenged to fit into any of thoes sleek
>beauties now, at
>> >least i have the memories*sigh*
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: Kent J. Miller <Bushwacker4@prodigy.net>
>> >To: Spridgets <Spridgets@autox.team.net>
>> >Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 11:04 PM
>> >Subject: Fw: Sweet Sounds
>> >
>> >
>> >> Isn't that the same sound as a P-51 Mustang? I saw one
>running full bore
>> >at
>> >> treetop level a few years back. You could see the red circle
>of the prop
>> >> tips!
>> >>
>> >> Kent
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: rob thomas <rob@thomasr.greatxscape.net>
>> >> To: Toby Atwater <tob.sprite.landcruiser@home.com>
>> >> Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 4:24 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: Sweet Sounds
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: Toby Atwater <tob.sprite.landcruiser@home.com>
>> >> >
>> >> > > Hey on that note.... does anybody know of a CD with
>different car
>> >sounds
>> >> > on
>> >> > > it? I think a CD with a full hour of different exotic
>sounding cars
>> >> would
>> >> > be
>> >> > > awesome... Don't know if it exists tho... I have made
>some recordings
>> >of
>> >> > my
>> >> > > car they can be heard here:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I am here listening to them at work... I can't drive my
>sprite, the
>> >head
>> >> > is
>> >> > > in the machine shop... but I can at least listen to it.
>> >> > >
>> >> > When I am teaching pilot refresher courses at East Midlands
>airport, I
>> >am
>> >> > near to Castle Donnington racetrack and you occasionally
>get some nice
>> >> > sounding cars winding up to the red-line on the straight
>that runs past
>> >> the
>> >> > offices. Better than that is the sound of the Supermarine
>Spitfire that
>> >> is
>> >> > based at East Mids. Everyone stops working. The windows
>get packed
>> >with
>> >> > people straining to see her climb out and do a high
>speed/low level run
>> >> past
>> >> > the terminal building. Strange how the sound of a RR
>Merlin can get so
>> >> many
>> >> > people of all different interests to stop talking and just
>listen.
>> >> > Sorry but you can keep your 14000 rpm Indy cars and you jap
>motorbikes,
>> >> > there's nothing better than a Spit being given a good
>workout (unless
>> >its
>> >> a
>> >> > Mosquito - engine overkill !!!)
>> >> >
>> >> > Rob Thomas.
>> >> > (Buzzed by one at treetop height at Popham airfield when
>just a
>> >teenager.
>> >> > An experience to cherish for ever)
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>> Larry Macy
>> 78 Midget
>>
>> Keep your top down and your chin up.
>>
>> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
>> macy@bblmail.psycha.upenn.edu
>> System Manager/Administrator
>> Neuropsychiatry Section
>> Department of Psychiatry
>> University of Pennsylvania
>> 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates
>> Philadelphia, PA 19104
>>
>> Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask
>a
>> question and you're a fool for the rest of your life.
>>
>>
>
Larry Macy
78 Midget
Keep your top down and your chin up.
Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
macy@bblmail.psycha.upenn.edu
System Manager/Administrator
Neuropsychiatry Section
Department of Psychiatry
University of Pennsylvania
3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates
Philadelphia, PA 19104
Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a
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