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Re: 1500 Distributor

To: "Charles Christ" <cfchrist@earthlink.net>, "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: 1500 Distributor
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 20:08:28 -0400
Thanks Chuck, I do not have points. The Pertronix was put in because the 
shaft bushes were worn, and the Pertronix unit has a lttle more tolerence 
for the worn bushes than a points setup does. I was told at the time that 
the Pertronix was a temporary fix and I would eventually need a new 
dizzy. I am sure that the shaft is wobbling more now than it was then. 
The evidence I point to is a raised lip on the end of the rotor. Like it 
is rubbing against the contacts in the cap. This can not be good. I just 
came back in from looking again and I can actually wobble the shaft by 
moving the rotor back and forth. So my questions are still can I replace 
the bushes or am stuck looking for a new dizzy?

Kevin V just emailed me about it and I responded that I would try a set 
of points. However after seeing that I can wobble the shaft, I do not 
think points is gonna fix it right now. 

Larry

PS Chuck shouldn't that be 
>lary-larry-larry!  in that order.  he-he-he:)!
>>>>On 4/23/00 2:27 PM so and so (Charles Christ) said. (And I quote:)

>lary-larry-larry!  in that order.  he-he:)!  if you are experiencing what i
>believe you are, you have either shot set of dist shaft bushings or the
>point cam's tolerance in relationship to the main shaft is bad.  what you
>are experiencing is a variable point gap caused by the main shaft and point
>cam never being at the exact same tolerance from 1 spark to a plug to the
>next.   you can gap the points untill you are blue in the face and this will
>haunt you for ever.   experienced this with a customer's morgan.  at 3500
>rpm it broke up and had a choppy idle.  changed evrything due to not knowing
>quality and age of what was there.  still persisted.  swapped out the dist
>for a "known good" more like n.o.s. distributor and it ran like a whole
>other car!  put back in old original dist. and evry bad habbit came back!
>as far as dist main shaft bushings go i am unaware of their availability
>anywhere.  that is a"good" machinist type of job.  i have a mechanical
>advance lucas comp. dist. here for just that repair for a customer.  i also
>have a n.o.s. lucas dist here we were considering swapping housings if upon
>disassembly the original main shaft was in good shape.  franken dist.!!!!!
>
>when i got my degree in automotive technology in college we were taught to
>dismantle and examine evrything!  not just run out and get a remanufactured
>or used one and exchange parts.  we were expected to repair what was wrong
>and restore the component to a functional state again.  this is how things
>were before planned obsolescence became a rule instead of the exception.
>almost anything can be repaired if you want it done!  that is what gets done
>in restoration of wierd and unique vehicles.
>
>spridgets= unique!    now understanding saab= wierd!    real wierd!!!!!
>
>chuck.
>sorry for the bummer explanation but think your dist . is having a bummer
>day and sharing with you!..:)
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Larry Macy <macy@bblmail.psycha.upenn.edu>
>To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
>Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2000 10:16 PM
>Subject: 1500 Distributor
>
>
>> I sent this out earlier today, as in about 11 AM EDT and it never came
>> back. I hope it didn't end up in email never never land ;-)
>> So if you got this twice I apologize, if you got once, I apologize,
>> However if you never got it, here it is, and I don't apologize.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> I am still trying to chase down the bad idle, missing when hot problem, I
>> asked about a couple weeks ago. To date I have replaced the plugs, wires,
>> and coil (no ballast needed). I got a dizzy cap from SlepBoys (they
>> actually had one in stock!!) However I had replaced the dizzy a number of
>> years ago to have one with points. The cap for the Elec style 1500 dizzy
>> does not fit. I need one with the side opening for the ignition wires. I
>> am unsure of what year - or car - this dizzy comes from. I see in the
>> Moss catalog that there is a side opening cap, but there is no info on
>> what year. The rotor in mine is obviously hitting the contacts in the
>> cap. There is a raised edge on the end of the rotor contact. I knew that
>> the bushes in the dizzy were going out but I have no idea how hard of a
>> job to replace them. There are also not listed in the Moss catalog. So I
>> have a couple of questions. Keep in mind I have a Pertronix and I would
>> like to keep it.
>>
>> 1) Can I get the bushes?? if so how hard are they to replce?
>> 2) Do I need a new dizzy?? What years can I use?
>> 3) Anybody got a used one in good shape?
>>
>> The car runs but don't wanna idle too good. I need to do all of this
>> prior to June - going to MG2000 in Cleveland.
>>
>> Details:
>> 1500 Stock
>> Pertronix on points style ignition, side opening cap.
>> Weber DGV carb
>> Headers
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> The Real Larry
>>
>> >>Find the REAL Larry at:
>> >>http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=64205&a=465433&p=17927032
>>
>> Larry Macy
>> 78 Midget
>>
>> Keep your top down and your chin up.
>>
>> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
>> macy@bblmail.psycha.upenn.edu
>> System Manager/Administrator
>> Neuropsychiatry Section
>> Department of Psychiatry
>> University of Pennsylvania
>> 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates
>> Philadelphia, PA 19104
>>
>>  Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a
>> question and you're a fool for the rest of your life.
>>
>>


Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
macy@bblmail.psycha.upenn.edu
System Manager/Administrator
Neuropsychiatry Section
Department of Psychiatry
University of Pennsylvania
3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates
Philadelphia, PA 19104

 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a 
question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. 


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