Hal (et al),
Don't get me wrong. I NEVER thought economics was the point, but I have
known many people who go and buy the cheap stuff because they feel it's
'good enuf'.
I only use the 'coffee analogy', because it has been a good way of showing
those who balk at the price difference, that there isn't ANY reason not to
use grade 5 and 8 fasteners.
"Is your life worth the cost of 2 weeks of lattes?? I thought not!!"
What you say about washers is spot on. I buy only the best washers...'AN'
I think they're called...they fit just right, and do the job they are
supposed to do, much better than junk washers.
CTP
ps-get on your soapbox as often as you want! These are important issues,
and some of the points CAN NOT be stressed too much.
ok...here's your soapbox back ;-)
At 12:42 PM -0800 1/13/98, Hal Cummings wrote:
> Hey Chris,
>
> Not to belabor the point, but economics should not be a consideration
> here. Lives are potentially at stake, to say nothing of the damage
> done to the car.
>
> Another item for consideration was touched on by Brian, and that is
> washers. It does no good to use the proper fasteners if you use @#$%
> washers.
>
> OK, I'm off my soap box!
>
> Hal
>
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>Subject: Re: fasteners
>Author: Christopher Palmer <ctp@gbn.org> at ccout
>Date: 1/13/98 11:56 AM
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>
>My 2¢ on fasteners:
>
>When re-assembling my 69 Midget, I calculated the difference in price to do
>the car with grade 5 and 8 bolts versus using ungraded and grade 3...it came
>out to be less than I spend on coffee in a 2 of weeks. (That's at Orchard
>Supply Hardware prices)(I do drink a lot of coffee though)
>
>>The only thing I've used stainless on was the manifold/block and
>>manifold/pipe junctions. Are there any others I should change before they
>>freeze up?
>Stainless is nice, but even more expensive. I tend not to use it because
>of the galling problem, although a good anti-seize helps prevent this.
>
>>I use brass nuts on studs for the exhaust manifolds of LBC's, brass also
>>not corroding and not >galling.
>I find brass to be the best for all exhaust applications, even better than
>SS with anti seize.
>
>>I also use neverseize almost everywhere exposed to weather.
>Definitely...you will thank yourself 5 years later when trying to remove
>some bolts which have been out in the weather...and they come off with a
>wrench (rather than a torch and the jaws-of-life)(who was it that says all
>anything takes is a checkbook anf high explosives?)
>
>CTP
>
>
>At 10:28 AM -0800 1/13/98, Shawn J. Tobin wrote:
>>Perhaps I SHOULD CLARIFY...
>>The Grade 2 SS fasteners I used for only holding the fenders
>>on and light-duty stuff like that. You should always use
>>grade 5 or 8 for engine or suspension work--8 for brakes.
>>I've never broken a bolt tightening it but I don't use air tools.
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