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Re: Spitfire ping

To: "Haynes, Mark" <mhaynes@ball.com>
Subject: Re: Spitfire ping
From: Jim <jdeatsc1@rochester.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:08:12 -0400
Of course Mark. Teasing you.
The ONLY kind of racing in fact.



"Haynes, Mark" wrote:

> No roundy rounder here, wheel to wheel  road racing (on circuit, of course)
> Mark Haynes
> '65 Spit Racer RMVR #162
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim [SMTP:jdeatsc1@rochester.rr.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 4:57 PM
> > To:   Haynes, Mark
> > Cc:   'spitfires@autox.team.net'
> > Subject:      Re: Spitfire ping
> >
> > Oh yes.  In fact a hundred thou is quite common in some circles.
> > And you do some roundy rounder racing, right Mark?  It was my
> > understanding that
> > Chris is running on the street and is having the preignition issue.  I
> > certainly
> > don't doubt it for a minute after the mods.
> > My point was that if one goes for the high-performance goodies then one
> > has to
> > pay the modern day piper with the fuels we have.  sigh,   for the 'good
> > old
> > days' of Union 76 Hi Test.
> > Course that's why my 'other' car is a Ranger pickup with a 4 cylinder that
> > runs
> > on 87 octane.
> >
> >
> > "Haynes, Mark" wrote:
> >
> > > Jim- Taking .100" off of the head isn't unheard of, in fact, the comp.
> > prep
> > > manual states that to get the necessary comp ratio, the head needs to be
> > > milled .125". we run a head with .120" off, stock flattop +.040" spit
> > > pistons, and one of Ted's cams. I can't complain about the performance,
> > we
> > > keep up with the front running GT6s and give them a run for their money.
> > > We've never had a problem with pinging, but then, we run a 50/50 mixture
> > of
> > > 112 and 91 Octane fuels. Timing for our 1296 is 32 degrees total
> > advance, at
> > > this altitude (5000'-8500'), it's what the dyno power tuned it to for
> > best
> > > power.
> > >         Chris, are you running a weber, or a pair of SUs? Did you
> > re-needle
> > > the SUs for the increased richness the compression ratio needs?
> > >
> > > Mark Haynes
> > > '65 Spit racer
> > > RMVR #162
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jim [SMTP:jdeatsc1@rochester.rr.com]
> > > > Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 6:58 PM
> > > > To:   Ted Schumacher
> > > > Cc:   Chris Pappathopoulos; spitfires@autox.team.net
> > > > Subject:      Re: Spitfire ping
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chris,
> > > > you had a HUNDRED thousandths taken off the head?
> > > >
> > > > seems like a little much to me.  Was this for performance or to make
> > the
> > > > head
> > > > flat?
> > > >
> > > > If it was for performance then get what you pay for.  Grin.
> > > >
> > > > Is the distributor advancing too much?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ted Schumacher wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Chris Pappathopoulos wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am having trouble with my Spit pinging since I rebuilt the
> > engine.
> > > > To
> > > > > > refresh your memory it is a 74 with the flat top 9:1 pistons and
> > .100
> > > > > > milled off a previously stock head. I had a 3 angle valve job
> > done,
> > > > > > tubular pushrods, double valve springs, and off hand I think a
> > > > TSI275-4
> > > > > > cam. Everything else is currently stock. I am using 93 octane gas
> > (the
> > > > > > highest readily available in WI). Under load such as a moderate
> > uphill
> > > > > > or hard acceleration the engine will start pinging. I'm probably
> > > > usually
> > > > > > turning at least 2500 rpm. If I try to retard the timing any the
> > > > engine
> > > > > > dies at idle. It is currently idling at 1500 rpm. I don't have the
> > > > exact
> > > > > > timing number as I have no timing light at college. Any ideas?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Chris Pappathopoulos
> > > > > have someone check the distrib and find out what you have for total
> > > > > advance and when it comes in.  then reset the timing based on these
> > > > > numbers.  with this combination you should be running about 36
> > degrees
> > > > > total timing.  call chris at foreign car specialists. ted
> > > > > --
> > > > > Ted Schumacher
> > > > > TS Imported Automotive
> > > > > 404 Basinger Rd.
> > > > > Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877
> > > > > Ph. 800/543-6648  USA/Canada  FAX 419/384-3272 24 hour
> > > > > Ph. 419/384-3022 - tech./general information
> > > > > Web page http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com
> > > > > New-Used-Rebuilt-NOS-Performance British car parts.
> > > > > 200 - 300 parts cars in our British-only salvage yard.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Rawchester, Neu Yawk
> > > > Sptifire MkII "HardWay"  FC68436L  Red, what else?
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > Rawchester, Neu Yawk
> > Sptifire MkII "HardWay"  FC68436L  Red, what else?
> >

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