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Re: [Shop-talk] Determine NEMA outlet type if it’s plugged in?

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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Determine NEMA outlet type if it’s plugged in?
From: jamesf@groupwbench.org
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2025 17:43:07 +0000
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Yes, twist lock. The devices in question are UPSs, and are 2880va, 120v 
units. And it may be confirmation bias, but 2880va/120v = 24a, which is 
80% of 30a, the standard derating. So I'm inclined to believe they are 
L5-30, especially since one unused one in the rail of 10 outlets is 
(local guy was able to unplug an unused unit). Does that make sense or 
am I thinking wishfully here (I have an order ready to go for mew ones 
with L5-30 plugs, just waitng for the outlet specs).

jim

On 2025-04-09 16:15, DAVID MASSEY wrote:

> Are these the TwistLock variety?  If so many of them look very similar 
> but have subtle differences making them incompatible with other styles. 
>  This is to make a 120V/20 amp different from a 220V20 amp so as to 
> avoid the possibility of plugging a 120V device into a 220V circuit.  
> Or a 120V 30A device into a 20A circuit.
> 
> You might be able to determine what styles you need from the nameplate 
> ratings on the powered device.  In other words is it a 120V or a 220V 
> device?  Of course if it dual voltage device it may be ambiguous.
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Wednesday, April 9, 2025 at 10:03:22 AM CDT, Jim Franklin 
> <jamesf@groupwbench.org> wrote:
> 
> I'm dealing with a bunch of Schroedinger's outlets here. All the 
> outlets are in use so I can't unplug them to look at the NEMA marking, 
> but I need to replace the devices plugged in, which can be ordered with 
> various plug types. Is there a way to tell from the outside what type I 
> have? It's round, which narrows it down to a few...
> 
> Thanks,
> Jim
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<p id=3D"reply-intro">Yes, twist lock. The devices in question are UPSs, an=
d are 2880va, 120v units. And it may be confirmation bias, but 2880va/120v =
=3D 24a, which is 80% of 30a, the standard derating. So I'm inclined to bel=
ieve they are L5-30, especially since one unused one in the rail of 10 outl=
ets is (local guy was able to unplug an unused unit). Does that make sense =
or am I thinking wishfully here (I have an order ready to go for mew ones w=
ith L5-30 plugs, just waitng for the outlet specs).</p>
<p>jim</p>
<p>On 2025-04-09 16:15, DAVID MASSEY wrote:</p>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Are these the TwistLock variety?&nbsp; If so many of them =
look very similar but have subtle differences making them incompatible with=
 other styles.&nbsp; This is to make a 120V/20 amp different from a 220V20 =
amp so as to avoid the possibility of plugging a 120V device into a 220V ci=
rcuit.&nbsp; Or a 120V 30A device into a 20A circuit.</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">You might be able to determine what styles you need from t=
he nameplate ratings on the powered device.&nbsp; In other words is it a 12=
0V or a 220V device?&nbsp; Of course if it dual voltage device it may be am=
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<div><span style=3D"font-size: large;">Dave <br /></span></div>
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at 10:03:22 AM CDT, Jim Franklin &lt;jamesf@groupwbench.org&gt; wrote:</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I'm dealing with a bunch of Schroedinger's outlets here. A=
ll the outlets are in use so I can't unplug them to look at the NEMA markin=
g, but I need to replace the devices plugged in, which can be ordered with =
various plug types. Is there a way to tell from the outside what type I hav=
e? It's round, which narrows it down to a few...</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks,</div>
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