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Re: [Shop-talk] flood light extension (Steven Trovato)

To: Steven Trovato <strovato@optonline.net>, shop-talk@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] flood light extension (Steven Trovato)
From: Brian Kemp <bk13@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2024 17:29:28 +0000
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Steve - I just mention for safety/awareness.  I am not an electrician or =
building contractor.

You could probably get away with junctions in the pull box for small wires =
like the light in this case, but if there was ever a problem and an =
insurance inspector determined it was caused by a code violation, they =
could deny the claim.

A home inspector could also question it as part of a home inspection for =
the house buyer when you sell.  I had a buyer of my house in 2009 try and =
negotiate a better price for "code violations" their inspector found.  I =
forwarded them a response from the city building department with code =
references showing their inspector was in error and I was in compliance =
with code.  The sale happened, but it was hassle and a nervous buyer could =
use valid non-code compliance to walk away from a sale.

All my experience is in suburban CA, so it my be different in the nice =
places where others on the list live.

Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Trovato <strovato@optonline.net>
Sent: Jun 5, 2024 8:24 PM
To: Brian Kemp <bk13@earthlink.net>, <markmiller@threeboysfarm.com>, =
<shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] flood light extension (Steven Trovato)

Brian, =20

This is just a light on my home/shop.  While I try to do things the right =
way, no one will be inspecting this.  Does code even apply to this?  This =
is essentially a light fixture, not part of structure wiring.  I have seen =
homemade light fixtures like creative artistic chandeliers.  I have also =
seen outdoor lights made of things like old lanterns or the globes from old=
 gas pumps.  I'm not trying to challenge you here, I really don't know =
where the line is drawn. =20

-Steve T

At 08:21 PM 6/5/2024, Brian Kemp wrote:
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Check local codes.&Acirc;  My city does not allow junctions in pull boxes =
like these.&Acirc;  I had several to change angles or in the middle of long=
 pulls and had to open the cover for the building inspector.

Brian

On 6/5/2024 12:49 AM, Mark Miller wrote:

If the wires aren't long enough you can extend it with a piece of threaded =
conduit and pipe plus a type C conduit body you can make the connection in:=
  https://www.lowes.com/pd/Sigma-Electric-ProConnex-1-2-in-Rigid-Conduit-Bo=
dy/3389356 (https://www.lowes.com/pd/Sigma-Electric-ProConnex-1-2-in-Rigid-=
Conduit-Body/3389356)=20



Regards,Mark Miller   707-490-5834markmiller@threeboysfarm.com =
(mailto:markmiller@threeboysfarm.com)=20
Outside my shop I have a typical flood light with two of these:https://www.=
lowes.com/pd/Sigma-Electric-2-25-in-LED-Gray-Switch-Controlled-Floodlight/3=
136837Is there any way to extend the part with the threaded end?  =
Throughsome bad planning, one of the lights is blocked by the =
gutterdownspout.  I would like to extend it out from there.  If =
thewiresneed to be longer I can figure out how to do that.  Whatever I =
dowill have to be suitable for outdoor use.  Moving the downspoutwouldbe =
difficult.  I can also relocate the whole light, but some sort ofextension =
arm would be the quickest and easiest solution of it ispossible.  Thanks.=
-Steve T.=20

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<div style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12p=
t"><p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">Steve - I just mention =
for safety/awareness.&nbsp; I am not an electrician or building contractor.=
</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">You could probably get =
away with junctions in the pull box for small wires like the light in this =
case, but if there was ever a problem and an insurance inspector determined=
 it was caused by a code violation, they could deny the claim.</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">A home inspector could =
also question it as part of a home inspection for the house buyer when you =
sell.&nbsp; I had a buyer of my house in 2009 try and negotiate a better =
price for "code violations" their inspector found.&nbsp; I forwarded them a=
 response from the city building department with code references showing =
their inspector was in error and I was in compliance with code.&nbsp; The =
sale happened, but it was hassle and a nervous buyer could use valid =
non-code compliance to walk away from a sale.</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">All my experience is in =
suburban CA, so it my be different in the nice places where others on the =
list live.</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">Brian</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div class=3D"elnk-inline-message-container" style=3D"border-left: 1px =
solid #aaa; box-sizing: border-box; padding: 10px 0 10px 15px; margin: =
0;">
<p>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Steven Trovato =
&lt;strovato@optonline.net&gt;<br>Sent: Jun 5, 2024 8:24 PM<br>To: Brian =
Kemp &lt;bk13@earthlink.net&gt;, &lt;markmiller@threeboysfarm.com&gt;, =
&lt;shop-talk@autox.team.net&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] flood light =
extension (Steven Trovato)</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">&nbsp;</p>
Brian,&nbsp; <br><br>This is just a light on my home/shop.&nbsp; While I =
try to do things the right way, no one will be inspecting this.&nbsp; Does =
code even apply to this?&nbsp; This is essentially a light fixture, not =
part of structure wiring.&nbsp; I have seen homemade light fixtures like =
creative artistic chandeliers.&nbsp; I have also seen outdoor lights made =
of things like old lanterns or the globes from old gas pumps.&nbsp; I'm not=
 trying to challenge you here, I really don't know where the line is drawn.=
&nbsp; <br><br>-Steve T<br><br>At 08:21 PM 6/5/2024, Brian Kemp wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"cite" cite=3D"">Content-Type: multipart/alternative;<b=
r>&nbsp;boundary=3D"------------V8f0o51C9vHv2V58ybq4bDtm"<br>Content-Langua=
ge: en-US<br><br>Check local codes.=C3=82&nbsp; My city does not allow =
junctions in pull boxes like these.=C3=82&nbsp; I had several to change =
angles or in the middle of long pulls and had to open the cover for the =
building inspector.<br><br>Brian<br><br>On 6/5/2024 12:49 AM, Mark Miller =
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"cite" cite=3D""><br>If the wires aren't long enough =
you can extend it with a piece of threaded conduit and pipe plus a type C =
conduit body you can make the connection in: <a href=3D"https://www.lowes.=
com/pd/Sigma-Electric-ProConnex-1-2-in-Rigid-Conduit-Body/3389356"> =
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Sigma-Electric-ProConnex-1-2-in-Rigid-Conduit-Body=
/3389356</a> <br><br><br><br>
<pre>Regards,

Mark Miller&nbsp;&nbsp; 707-490-5834
<a href=3D"mailto:markmiller@threeboysfarm.com";>
markmiller@threeboysfarm.com</a></pre>
<span style=3D"font-family: Courier New, Courier;"> </span>
<blockquote class=3D"cite" cite=3D""><br>
<pre>Outside my shop I have a typical flood light with two of these:

<a href=3D"https://www.lowes.com/pd/Sigma-Electric-2-25-in-LED-Gray-Switch-=
Controlled-Floodlight/3136837">
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Sigma-Electric-2-25-in-LED-Gray-Switch-Controlled-=
Floodlight/3136837</a>

Is there any way to extend the part with the threaded end?&nbsp; Through
some bad planning, one of the lights is blocked by the gutter
downspout.&nbsp; I would like to extend it out from there.&nbsp; If the
wires
need to be longer I can figure out how to do that.&nbsp; Whatever I do
will have to be suitable for outdoor use.&nbsp; Moving the downspout
would
be difficult.&nbsp; I can also relocate the whole light, but some sort of
extension arm would be the quickest and easiest solution of it is
possible.&nbsp; Thanks.

-Steve T.

&nbsp;


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