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Re: [Shop-talk] battery exploded ???

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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] battery exploded ???
From: Thomas Coradeschi <tjcora@icloud.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2023 12:38:48 -0400
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References: <1UeoCu1Jhy.7Rq02zhMWSz@johns-desktop> <17998693-1178-412A-AAA8-B28B29F90194@icloud.com> <CAG1pxgZSgZYMcLu8VdXKXhSCcnuNAX=mYyD0-hch-+mhC79Ciw@mail.gmail.com> <1UeoDwy6zi.16gvNGtQG5Y@johns-desktop>
With you 100%. At this point, Iâ??d suggest you look for an AGM battery which 
will meet the specs (physical and electrical). There is just so much wrong with 
the old flooded plate technology (as you can see) that the cost differential - 
which isnâ??t much - is worth it just for peace of mind.

My $0.02.

â??
Tom Coradeschi
tjcora@icloud.com


> On 07 Oct 2023, at 10:09 AM, john <jniolon@att.net> wrote:
> 
>  
>  
> little background... battery is in a 30kw Generac standby generator.  
> Protected from the weather
>  It exercised itself last week with no problem..
>  
> cables and connectors were clean and tight.  It was 2 years and 2 months 
> old...
>  
> generator is equipt with a trickle charger that keeps battery topped off and 
> I've never had a problem with it.  I think it's rated at 1 amp.
>  
>  
>  
> took the battery back to Walmart and it was 2 months out of a 2 year warranty 
> and they said they would give me a core charge ...nothing else, even though 
> it EXPLODED !!
>  
> I'm gonna wash the generator down with baking soda today. Signs of sprayed 
> battery acid are evident everywhere.  Then do some testing... 
>  
> I'm with dirtbeard...I'm leaning toward internal short as I've seen lots of 
> the same thing on the net with Walmart batteries.....more to come
> john
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: old dirtbeard <dirtbeard@gmail.com>
> To: Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com>
> Cc: john <jniolon@att.net>, shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
> Sent: 10/7/2023 7:29:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] battery exploded ???
> Guessing here, but perhaps the battery sulfated, the plates touched/shorted 
> and caused internal short. 
> 
> If the battery was not vented adequately, vents plugged, etc., it could have 
> pressurized and exploded.
> 
> I use desulfating trickle chargers/battery tenders on all of my lead acid 
> batteries in hopes to extend the battery life and hopefully to prevent this 
> scenario.
> 
> Again, though, just guessing here.
> 
> On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 11:33â?¯PM Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com> wrote:
> Never had this happen.  Instead of getting a battery & rolling the dice as to 
> whether you have a short in the generator, use the battery in a vehicle with 
> jumper cables & put a headlight in series with it. If the headlight doesnâ??t 
> light when you connect the leads, you donâ??t have a short. 
> 
> Peace, Pat. 
> 
> Pat Horne 
> We support Habitat for Humanity
> 
> 
> On Oct 6, 2023, at 6:22 PM, john <jniolon@att.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> here's a new one for me... Hadn't heard my generator exercise lately so tried 
> to start it manually...click..ckick
>  
> pulled the cover off and here's what I found... top and side blown  off and 
> of course fluid drained out
>  
> looks like it exploded... anyone seen this before??   can't trouble shoot 
> till I get another battery... what...other than a direct
> short would cause this??   what/where/how would you troubleshoot ??
>  
> <IMG_0634.jpg>
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