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Re: [Shop-talk] Coast in Neutral -the next great debate

To: Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Coast in Neutral -the next great debate
From: Benjamin Zwissler <bjzwissler@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2022 13:40:23 -0500
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I was taught in drivers ed, now 45 years ago, that in Indiana "coasting"
was illegal, as the car was considered out of control.  I assumed that the
reasoning was if your brakes failed you might not be able to get it back in
gear and use engine braking.   Seems a moot point these days as modern cars
all have synchros and the brakes are much better than they used to be.

I do know there's been some fatal hay-ride tractor accidents when the
driver coasted, couldn't get the tractor back in gear and the tractor
brakes were completely inadequate to stop the tractor and trailer.

Ben

On Mon, Dec 12, 2022, 12:27 PM Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gmail.com> wrote:

> It depends.
>
> 1.   Will it get sufficient splash lubrication?
>
> 2.  Will you burn out your brakes holding a coasting car back instead of
> letting the engine do the braking?
>
> I've always heard that at best, it really doesn't help much.
>
>
> -- Jeff
>
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2022, 11:00 <eric@megageek.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm putting this out to the group to get some opinions from the real
>> experts here.
>>
>> If you put a manually car or truck in neutral and release the clutch
>> while going down long hills or coming to a stop at a intersection, are you
>> doing any damage?
>>
>> I'm not worried about fuel savings, just is coasting in neutral with the
>> clutch release.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"auto">I was taught in drivers ed, now 45 years=
 ago, that in Indiana &quot;coasting&quot; was illegal, as the car was cons=
idered out of control.=C2=A0 I assumed that the reasoning was if your brake=
s failed you might not be able to get it back in gear and use engine brakin=
g.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Seems a moot point these days as modern cars all have synchr=
os and the brakes are much better than they used to be.</div><div dir=3D"au=
to"><br></div><div>I do know there&#39;s been some fatal=C2=A0hay-ride trac=
tor accidents when the driver coasted, couldn&#39;t get the tractor back in=
 gear and the tractor brakes were completely inadequate to stop the tractor=
 and trailer.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Ben</div></div><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 12,=
 2022, 12:27 PM Jeff Scarbrough &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fishplate@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">fishplate@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px soli=
d rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>It depends.<div=
 dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">1.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Will it get suffic=
ient splash lubrication?</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"=
>2.=C2=A0 Will you burn out your brakes holding a coasting car back instead=
 of letting the engine do the braking?</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"auto">I&#39;ve always heard that at best, it really doesn&#39;t he=
lp much.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div>-- Je=
ff<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">=
On Mon, Dec 12, 2022, 11:00  &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eric@megageek.com"; rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">eric@megageek.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border=
-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size=3D"2" face=3D=
"sans-serif">I&#39;m putting this out to the group to get
some opinions from the real experts here.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">If you put a manually car or truck=
 in
neutral and release the clutch while going down long hills or coming to
a stop at a intersection, are you doing any damage?</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I&#39;m not worried about fuel sav=
ings,
just is coasting in neutral with the clutch release.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Any thoughts?</font>
<br>
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