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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Furnace Filters
From: Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 19:02:43 -0500
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Thanks, guys.  That is all good feedback. David: I hadn=E2=80=99t =
considered using a washable filter, but it is an interesting idea.  It =
looks like a 4=E2=80=9D one will cost me around $100, so the breakeven =
point is after a year.  Not too bad.

But, here is an interesting point that showed up tangentially when I =
Googled =E2=80=9Cwashable furnace filters=E2=80=9D:=20

Fortunately, most 20x25x4 air filters last between six to eight months. =
By that calculation, the average homeowners will not need more than two =
20x25x4 air filters in any given year. In contrast, a one-inch air =
filter will need to be changed every two to three months.  =
https://servicechampions.com/benefits-of-a-20x25x4-air-filter-installed-in=
-your-furnace/

If that is true, the cost difference between the 4=E2=80=9D and 1=E2=80=9D=
 disappears.  Thoughts?

Jim=20


> On Dec 13, 2021, at 5:32 PM, Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com> wrote:
>=20
> My shop air handler is set up to use a 2=E2=80=9D filter but the =
installer said to use 2 one inch filters, both good ones. I watch the =
first one & remove it when it is too dirty, move the second one up & =
install a new second one.=20
> There is some discoloration on the second filter, so it is doing =
something.=20
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> If you want to go with two different ones, I=E2=80=99d put the poorer =
one first, followed by the better one.=20
>=20
> My HVAC guy says to not use the corrugated filters, nor the fiberglass =
ones that you can see throughout. He sells me Purolator 312 filters by =
the case.=20
>=20
> Peace,
> Pat
>=20
> Pat Horne=20
> We support Habitat for Humanity
>=20
>=20
> On Dec 13, 2021, at 4:21 PM, Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFThe company that installed my HVAC system a few years ago =
used a filter box on the return line that takes 20=E2=80=9D x 25" x 4=E2=80=
=9D filters, which is an unusual, and thus expensive, size - filters =
generally run about $25 each - that is not readily available other than =
online.  During construction, my general contractor just had a cheap =
20=E2=80=9D x 25" x 1=E2=80=9D filter in there that seemed to work just =
fine.  I checked the installation instructions for the furnace and there =
are no specifications for the filters, other than that they need to be =
changed regularly, which is getting pretty expensive.  Is there any =
reason I couldn=E2=80=99t just use 1=E2=80=9D filters, which are less =
than half the price?  Maybe even put two of them in the box, a good one =
first to catch most of the dust and a cheap one like the contractor used =
as a secondary one.  It is a snug fit and I don=E2=80=99t think there is =
any danger of them tipping, but two would make it impossible.
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> Thanks,
> Jim
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Thanks, guys. &nbsp;That is all good feedback. David: I =
hadn=E2=80=99t considered using a washable filter, but it is an =
interesting idea. &nbsp;It looks like a 4=E2=80=9D one will cost me =
around $100, so the breakeven point is after a year. &nbsp;Not too =
bad.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">But, here is an =
interesting point that showed up tangentially when I Googled =E2=80=9Cwash=
able furnace filters=E2=80=9D:&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; =
padding: 0px;" class=3D""><div class=3D""><font color=3D"#0433ff" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(32, 33, 36); font-family: =
&quot;Google Sans Text&quot;, arial, sans-serif; background-color: =
rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D"">Fortunately, most 20x25x4 air filters =
last between&nbsp;</span><b style=3D"caret-color: rgb(32, 33, 36); =
font-family: &quot;Google Sans Text&quot;, arial, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">six to eight months</b><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(32, =
33, 36); font-family: &quot;Google Sans Text&quot;, arial, sans-serif; =
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D"">. By that calculation, =
the average homeowners will not need more than two 20x25x4 air filters =
in any given year. In contrast, a one-inch air filter will need to be =
changed every two to three months. &nbsp;</span></font><a =
href=3D"https://servicechampions.com/benefits-of-a-20x25x4-air-filter-inst=
alled-in-your-furnace/" =
class=3D"">https://servicechampions.com/benefits-of-a-20x25x4-air-filter-i=
nstalled-in-your-furnace/</a></div></blockquote><div class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>If that is true, the cost difference between the =
4=E2=80=9D and 1=E2=80=9D disappears. &nbsp;Thoughts?</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>Jim&nbsp;</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Dec =
13, 2021, at 5:32 PM, Pat Horne &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:patintexas@icloud.com"; =
class=3D"">patintexas@icloud.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">My shop air handler is set up to =
use a 2=E2=80=9D filter but the installer said to use 2 one inch =
filters, both good ones. I watch the first one &amp; remove it when it =
is too dirty, move the second one up &amp; install a new second =
one.&nbsp;<div class=3D"">There is some discoloration on the second =
filter, so it is doing something.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">If you want to go with two different =
ones, I=E2=80=99d put the poorer one first, followed by the better =
one.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">My =
HVAC guy says to not use the corrugated filters, nor the fiberglass ones =
that you can see throughout. He sells me Purolator 312 filters by the =
case.&nbsp;<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Peace,</div><div =
class=3D"">Pat</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div class=3D"">We support Habitat for =
Humanity</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">On Dec 13, 2021, at 4:21 PM, Jim Stone &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:1789alpine@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">1789alpine@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">=EF=BB=BF<meta =
http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" =
class=3D"">The company that installed my HVAC system a few years ago =
used a filter box on the return line that takes 20=E2=80=9D x 25" x<b =
class=3D""> 4=E2=80=9D</b> filters, which is an unusual, and thus =
expensive, size - filters generally run about $25 each - that is not =
readily available other than online. &nbsp;During construction, my =
general contractor just had a&nbsp;cheap 20=E2=80=9D x 25" x <b =
class=3D"">1=E2=80=9D </b>filter in there that seemed to work just fine. =
&nbsp;I checked the installation instructions for the furnace and there =
are no specifications for the filters, other than that they need to be =
changed regularly, which is getting pretty expensive. &nbsp;Is there any =
reason I couldn=E2=80=99t just use 1=E2=80=9D filters, which are less =
than half the price? &nbsp;Maybe even put two of them in the box, a good =
one first to catch most of the dust and a cheap one like the contractor =
used as a secondary one. &nbsp;It is a snug fit and I don=E2=80=99t =
think there is any danger of them tipping, but two would make it =
impossible.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Thanks,</div><div class=3D"">Jim</div><span =
class=3D"">_______________________________________________</span><br =
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