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You=E2=80=99ll be good with what you have. I have a 3 kW Honda on a 10 circu=
it transfer switch, feeding a 2600 ft2 house. We can=E2=80=99t run the the b=
ig power hogs - A/C or electric oven - but other than that, we are good. We r=
un some lighting, internet/computer/TV, NG powered heat, HW, cooktop, dryer=
and grill, etc. Its an inverter based system and it rarely runs much above i=
dle unless heat, both fridges, freezer and coffee maker are all calling for p=
ower at the same time.
Tom Coradeschi
tjcora@icloud.com
> On Aug 21, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF=46rom David:
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>> You need a low pressure regulator. Input is 10 to 15ish inches of water. =
Output is 10 inches water.=20
> Steal the one from your furnace, if you need to.
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> There is a regulator between the tank and the house, so it comes in before=
the line to the outside. It is hard to read the regulator, as it is under t=
he porch, which is why I gave the stats for the water heater.=20
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> =46rom Pat:
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>> Silly question. Did you talk to the folks that installed the generator?
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>=20
> Not silly, but it isn=E2=80=99t a permanent whole house generator. I=E2=80=
=99ve thought about installing one, and certainly will if weather patterns c=
hange enough that we are dealing with this more often, but the price didn=E2=
=80=99t seem justified given the amount of use that it would get. As I said=
, I have had this one for about 8 years and never had to use it. My main wo=
rry has always been an extended outage in the winter, but we don=E2=80=99t n=
eed much amperage with propane heat for the furnaces. (Separate heat in the s=
hop. Hey! Shop content!). I haven=E2=80=99t done the exact math, but beli=
eve that 4000 Surge Watts/3250 Running Watts will be enough to keep things g=
oing here for as long as it takes=E2=80=A6as long as I can run off of the in=
-ground tank.
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>> On Aug 21, 2021, at 3:46 PM, Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com> wrote:
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>> Silly question. Did you talk to the folks that installed the generator?
>>=20
>> Peace,
>> Pat
>>=20
>> Pat Horne=20
>> We support Habitat for Humanity
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Aug 21, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> =EF=BB=BFI am on Eastern Long Island, directly in one of the projected pa=
ths of Hurricane Henri. We are being told to plan for 7-10 days without pow=
er, although FWIW we were only powerless for 4 days following Sandy. Shortl=
y after Sandy I purchased an LP Generator (https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-t=
ools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-generator/?wi=3Doff&gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhB=
PEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE=
) which, of course, I have never needed, although I do run it periodically t=
o be safe. It is designed to run off of LP tanks and comes with a standard r=
egulator. A little Googling shows the following specs for the regulator:
>>=20
>> Low Pressure Regulator
>> Inlet Pressure: 25-250PSIG
>> Outlet Pressure: 280mmH2O=3D (11"W.C.)
>> Flow Capacity(MAX): 119000(BTU/hr)
>>=20
>> We use Propane for DHW and heat and have a 500 gallon in-ground tank. I=
had an outside gas line stubbed out when the house was remodeled, just in c=
ase I ever needed it and I would like to be able to connect the generator di=
rectly to the house supply and avoid having to depend on the portable tanks.=
The house supply is regulated and, as an example, here are the specs for t=
he water heater:
>>=20
>> Max Inlet Gas Pressure: 13.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.
>> Min Inlet Gas Pressure: 8.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.
>> Recovery Rating: 206/Gallons/HR
>> Max Working Pressure: 150psi
>> Max Output: 180,000 BTU/HR
>> Max Input: 11,000 BTU/HR
>> Manifold Pressure: 3.9 =E2=80=9CW.C. (For Max Input)
>>=20
>> Am I missing anything, or should I be able to hook the generator directly=
to the house supply without the regulator? For the record, I tried it once=
with the regulator attached and it barely ran and didn=E2=80=99t put out an=
y appreciable power. I always meant to research this before I needed it, bu=
t like many of us, never got around to it until now.
>>=20
>> Thanks,
>> Jim
>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">You=E2=80=99ll be good with what you have. I=
have a 3 kW Honda on a 10 circuit transfer switch, feeding a 2600 ft2 house=
. We can=E2=80=99t run the the big power hogs - A/C or electric oven - but o=
ther than that, we are good. We run some lighting, internet/computer/TV, NG p=
owered heat, HW, cooktop, dryer and grill, etc. Its an inverter based s=
ystem and it rarely runs much above idle unless heat, both fridges, freezer a=
nd coffee maker are all calling for power at the same time.<br><br><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Tom Coradesc=
hi</span><div><span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 25=
5, 0);">tjcora@icloud.com</span></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote=
type=3D"cite">On Aug 21, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.c=
om> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D=
"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; chars=
et=3Dutf-8">=46rom David:<div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><br cla=
ss=3D""></div><div class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div dir=3D=
"auto" class=3D"">You need a low pressure regulator. Input is 10 to 15ish in=
ches of water. Output is 10 inches water. </div></blockquote><fon=
t color=3D"#5856d6" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(88, 86, 214);=
" class=3D"">Steal the one from your furnace, if you need to.</span></font><=
/div><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">There is a regulator between the tank and the h=
ouse, so it comes in before the line to the outside. It is hard to rea=
d the regulator, as it is under the porch, which is why I gave the stats for=
the water heater. </div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div clas=
s=3D"">=46rom Pat:</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""=
><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Silly que=
stion. Did you talk to the folks that installed the generator?</div></blockq=
uote></div><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div=
></div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Not silly, but it isn=E2=80=99t a perman=
ent whole house generator. I=E2=80=99ve thought about installing one, a=
nd certainly will if weather patterns change enough that we are dealing with=
this more often, but the price didn=E2=80=99t seem justified given the amou=
nt of use that it would get. As I said, I have had this one for about 8=
years and never had to use it. My main worry has always been an exten=
ded outage in the winter, but we don=E2=80=99t need much amperage with propa=
ne heat for the furnaces. (Separate heat in the shop. Hey! Shop c=
ontent!). I haven=E2=80=99t done the exact math, but believe that =
;4000 Surge Watts/3250 Running Watts will be enough to keep things going her=
e for as long as it takes=E2=80=A6as long as I can run off of the in-ground t=
ank.</div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div clas=
s=3D"">On Aug 21, 2021, at 3:46 PM, Pat Horne <<a href=3D"mailto:patintex=
as@icloud.com" class=3D"">patintexas@icloud.com</a>> wrote:</div><br clas=
s=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta http-equiv=3D"content-=
type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" cl=
ass=3D"">Silly question. Did you talk to the folks that installed the genera=
tor?<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Peace,</div><div cl=
ass=3D"">Pat<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Pat Ho=
rne <div class=3D"">We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div class=3D"=
"><br class=3D""></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><br class=3D"">On A=
ug 21, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Jim Stone <<a href=3D"mailto:1789alpine@gmail.co=
m" class=3D"">1789alpine@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=3D""><br class=3D=
""></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Ty=
pe" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" class=3D"">I am on Eastern Long I=
sland, directly in one of the projected paths of Hurricane Henri. We a=
re being told to plan for 7-10 days without power, although FWIW we were onl=
y powerless for 4 days following Sandy. Shortly after Sandy I purchase=
d an LP Generator (<a href=3D"https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000l=
p-4000-watt-propane-generator/?wi=3Doff&gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zl=
l1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE" class=3D=
"">https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-generat=
or/?wi=3Doff&gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-=
t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE</a>) which, of course, I have never=
needed, although I do run it periodically to be safe. It is designed t=
o run off of LP tanks and comes with a standard regulator. A little Go=
ogling shows the following specs for the regulator:<div class=3D""><br class=
=3D""></div><div class=3D""><ul class=3D"MailOutline"><li class=3D"">Low Pre=
ssure Regulator</li><li class=3D"">Inlet Pressure: &nbs=
p; 25-250PSIG</li><li class=3D"">Outlet Pressure:  =
; 280mmH2O=3D (11"W.C.)</li><li class=3D""=
>Flow Capacity(MAX): 119000(BTU/hr)</li></ul><div class=3D""><b=
r class=3D""></div></div><div class=3D"">We use Propane for DHW and heat and=
have a 500 gallon in-ground tank. I had an outside gas line stubbed o=
ut when the house was remodeled, just in case I ever needed it and I would l=
ike to be able to connect the generator directly to the house supply and avo=
id having to depend on the portable tanks. The house supply is regulat=
ed and, as an example, here are the specs for the water heater:</div><div cl=
ass=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><ul class=3D"MailOutline"><li c=
lass=3D"">Max Inlet Gas Pressure: 13.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.</li><li cl=
ass=3D"">Min Inlet Gas Pressure: 8.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.</li><li cla=
ss=3D"">Recovery Rating: 20=
6/Gallons/HR</li><li class=3D"">Max Working Pressure: 150psi</=
li><li class=3D"">Max Output: &nbs=
p; 180,000 BTU/HR</li><li class=3D"">Max Input: &=
nbsp; &=
nbsp; 11,000 BTU/HR</li><li class=3D"">Manifold Pressure:  =
; 3.9 =E2=80=9CW.C. (For Max Input)</li></ul><di=
v class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Am I missing anything, or s=
hould I be able to hook the generator directly to the house supply without t=
he regulator? For the record, I tried it once with the regulator attac=
hed and it barely ran and didn=E2=80=99t put out any appreciable power. &nbs=
p;I always meant to research this before I needed it, but like many of us, n=
ever got around to it until now.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><=
div class=3D"">Thanks,</div><div class=3D"">Jim</div><div class=3D""><br cla=
ss=3D""></div></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><span class=3D"">__=
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