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Regarding the "wandering and fishtailing": my first thought was that too
light tongue weight will cause that, but it sounds like yours is heavy
enough. A weight distributing hitch will help a lot.
Finally, you indicated you're new to trailer towing - raising the
possibility of the driver over correcting. This is what flyers would call
pilot-induced-ocillation. This tends to go away with experience, especially
if you tow regularly.
On Mon, May 17, 2021, 6:38 PM john niolon <jniolon@att.net> wrote:
> did my first real trailer trip this past weekend and was generally pleased
> but found several things I need to address. I can't seem to find the info
> I'm looking for easily.
>
> first... the rig is
> 2008 Suburban 5.3 L 4 speed auto with 3.73 axle and 20" tires
> towing package installed stock from factory
> GCWR is rated at 13,000 (from the manual)
> Stated max trailer weight is 7,000 (from manual)
>
> trailer is a 18' Anderson car hauler weighing 2,400
> Load is a 53 F-100 weighing 3,840 with the engine end ahead
> of the first axle... (truck front end weight is 2300 per the county
> scales)
> total trailer load 6,240
>
> I did the bathroom scale tongue weight thingy and got
>
> 575 # without my wife's mobility scooter mounted in front off the truck
> 715 # WITH "
> " " "
>
> I think I'm within acceptable tongue weight range either way. But defer
> to wiser minds
>
> I have a manual tongue jack that's tired and want to switch to electric
> (for ease and to sake of my shoulders brand recommendations ??
>
> also how is the rating of the jacks calculated... is it just the tongue
> weight or do I need to calculate some part of the load ahead of the axle
> too?
>
> I-59, I-24, I-75, I-40 is a collection of bad paving, dips, humps,
> potholes that resemble shallow wells and made driving a puckering
> experience
> especially for a trailering noob. Kept my speed under 60 mph and on good
> roads it was fine but as the condition of roads deteriorated I experienced
> a little wander and fishtailing that I could correct but in metro traffic
> it increased pucker factor by 50-70%
>
> Add that to the lookey-lous that want to eyeball my truck as they drift
> over closer than they should... and it seemed like NASCAR rubbin is racing
> time.
>
> Love to hear recommendations on electric jack ratings , and other wise
> advise to make next trip more safe and enjoyable.. I know you guys have a
> well spring of knowledge you can pour over me.
>
> thanks
> John
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Regarding the "wandering and fishtailing": my f=
irst thought was that too light tongue weight will cause that, but it sound=
s like yours is heavy enough. A weight distributing hitch will help a lot.<=
div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Finally, you indicated you'=
;re new to trailer towing - raising the possibility of the driver over corr=
ecting. This is what flyers would call pilot-induced-ocillation. This tends=
to go away with experience, especially if you tow regularly.</div></div><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, =
May 17, 2021, 6:38 PM john niolon <<a href=3D"mailto:jniolon@att.net";>jn=
iolon@att.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class=3D"m_-5981066085216854475OECFntDef">
<div>did my first real trailer trip this past weekend and was generally ple=
ased but found several things I need to address.=C2=A0 I can't seem to =
find the info I'm looking for easily.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>first... the rig is</div>
<div>2008 Suburban 5.3 L=C2=A0 4 speed auto=C2=A0 with 3.73 axle and 20&quo=
t; tires</div>
<div>towing package installed stock from factory</div>
<div>GCWR is rated at 13,000=C2=A0=C2=A0 (from the manual)</div>
<div>Stated max trailer weight is 7,000 (from manual)</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>trailer is a 18' Anderson car hauler=C2=A0 weighing 2,400</div>
<div>Load is a 53 F-100 weighing 3,840=C2=A0 with the engine end ahead</div=
>
<div>of the first axle...=C2=A0 (truck front end weight is 2300 per the cou=
nty scales)</div>
<div>total trailer load 6,240</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>I did the bathroom scale tongue weight thingy and got</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>575 # without my wife's mobility scooter mounted in front off the =
truck</div>
<div>715 #=C2=A0 WITH=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 "=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 "=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 "=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 "</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>I think I'm within acceptable tongue weight range either way.=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 But defer to wiser minds</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>I have a manual tongue jack that's tired and want to switch to ele=
ctric (for ease and to sake of my shoulders=C2=A0 brand recommendations ??<=
/div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>also=C2=A0 how is the rating of the jacks calculated... is it just the=
tongue weight or do I need to calculate some part of the load ahead of the=
axle too?</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>I-59, I-24, I-75, I-40=C2=A0 is a collection of bad paving, dips, hump=
s, potholes that resemble shallow wells=C2=A0 and made driving a puckering =
experience</div>
<div>especially for a trailering noob.=C2=A0 Kept my speed under 60 mph and=
on good roads it was fine but as the condition of roads deteriorated I exp=
erienced</div>
<div>a little wander and fishtailing that I could correct but in metro traf=
fic it increased pucker factor by 50-70%</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Add that to the lookey-lous that want to eyeball my truck as they drif=
t over closer than they should... and it seemed like NASCAR rubbin is racin=
g time.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Love to hear recommendations on=C2=A0 electric jack ratings , and othe=
r wise advise to make next trip more safe and enjoyable..=C2=A0 I know you =
guys have a</div>
<div>well spring of knowledge you can pour over me.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>thanks</div>
<div>John</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div></div>
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