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Depends on what you are looking for in terms of useful lighting. Are you
just needing a little light to get into the house on dark nights? Are you
shooting hoops on the driveway? Working on cars outside on the drive? The
task determines what level of illumination you need. I installed high
lumen (22,000) LED floods for working on equipment outside the barn, but
these are aimed for horizon cutoff and are only used while working
outside. For just enough light to get in the barn door I use 1000 lumen
LED's in a shaded fixture on a motion sensor.
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 6:03 PM The Corvair Kid <kentsu@corvairkid.com>
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I am looking into replacing two long-serving halogen floodlights on the
> exterior of my shop with LED units. I could use some help from the group =
in
> understanding what choices provide an apples-to-apples replacement (or
> better), in terms of overall brightness and similar coverage.
>
>
>
> The existing units are Heath/Zenith Model SL-5525. A picture of one of
> them is attached, as are pictures of a couple of pages of the installatio=
n
> instructions (yes, I saved them from nearly 20 years ago!). These units
> each use a single 250-Watt T3 bulb, which the Interwebz claims provide 40=
00
> lumens. The lights are mounted approximately 15 feet above ground and shi=
ne
> onto a bare concrete driveway.
>
>
>
> As you can see, these units have both motion and light sensors, the
> functionality of which I intend to carry forward into any LED replacement=
s
> being considered. In addition, I do not wish to remove or replace the
> existing electrical box extensions mounted on the shop exterior. The wood
> is clear cedar and I don=E2=80=99t want to deal with fading or differing =
hole
> sizes. I realize that this constrains my replacement choices a fair amoun=
t,
> since (it appears) relatively-few LED lights use a standard round mountin=
g
> plate. The mounting location under the eave also restricts the size of an=
y
> replacement fixture. (Some high-lumen LEDs that I have found are quite
> large in size.)
>
>
>
> With help from an electrical and lighting supplier near me, one candidate
> (the only one so far) is made by OLF. A spec sheet is attached. As you ca=
n
> see, the manufacturer claims that the two LED heads provide a total of 21=
60
> lumens. The lighting supplier said that, due to the directionality of LED=
s,
> 1/2 the number of lumens are needed for equivalent brightness to halogen.
>
>
>
> So, group =E2=80=93 any comments or recommendations would be most helpful=
. Do you
> agree with the =E2=80=9CLEDs can have 50% fewer lumens=E2=80=9D claim? An=
y knowledge or
> experience about the coverage (=E2=80=9Ccone=E2=80=9D) of a single haloge=
n vs. 2 LEDs at
> ~15 feet height? Anything else I should consider?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> --Kent
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Depends on what you are looking for in terms of useful lig=
hting.=C2=A0 Are you just needing a little light to get into the house on d=
ark nights?=C2=A0 Are you shooting hoops on the driveway?=C2=A0 Working on =
cars outside on the drive?=C2=A0 The task determines what level of illumina=
tion you need.=C2=A0 I installed high lumen (22,000) LED floods for working=
on equipment outside the barn, but these are aimed for horizon cutoff and =
are only used while working outside.=C2=A0 For just enough light to get in =
the barn door I use 1000 lumen LED's in a shaded fixture on a motion se=
nsor.=C2=A0 <br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 6:03 PM The Corvair Kid <<a href=
=3D"mailto:kentsu@corvairkid.com"; target=3D"_blank">kentsu@corvairkid.com</=
a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div lang=3D"EN-US"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10=
pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Hi all,<u></u><u></u></span></=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I =
am looking into replacing two long-serving halogen floodlights on the exter=
ior of my shop with LED units. I could use some help from the group in unde=
rstanding what choices provide an apples-to-apples replacement (or better),=
in terms of overall brightness and similar coverage.<u></u><u></u></span><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:"A=
rial",sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">T=
he existing units are Heath/Zenith Model SL-5525. A picture of one of them =
is attached, as are pictures of a couple of pages of the installation instr=
uctions (yes, I saved them from nearly 20 years ago!). These units each use=
a single 250-Watt T3 bulb, which the Interwebz claims provide 4000 lumens.=
The lights are mounted approximately 15 feet above ground and shine onto a=
bare concrete driveway.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><u></u=
>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10=
pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">As you can see, these units ha=
ve both motion and light sensors, the functionality of which I intend to ca=
rry forward into any LED replacements being considered. In addition, I do n=
ot wish to remove or replace the existing electrical box extensions mounted=
on the shop exterior. The wood is clear cedar and I don=E2=80=99t want to =
deal with fading or differing hole sizes. I realize that this constrains my=
replacement choices a fair amount, since (it appears) relatively-few LED l=
ights use a standard round mounting plate. The mounting location under the =
eave also restricts the size of any replacement fixture. (Some high-lumen L=
EDs that I have found are quite large in size.)<u></u><u></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:"Arial&q=
uot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">With he=
lp from an electrical and lighting supplier near me, one candidate (the onl=
y one so far) is made by OLF. A spec sheet is attached. As you can see, the=
manufacturer claims that the two LED heads provide a total of 2160 lumens.=
The lighting supplier said that, due to the directionality of LEDs, 1/2 th=
e number of lumens are needed for equivalent brightness to halogen.<u></u><=
u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-=
family:"Arial",sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:"Arial"=
,sans-serif">So, group =E2=80=93 any comments or recommendations would be m=
ost helpful. Do you agree with the =E2=80=9CLEDs can have 50% fewer lumens=
=E2=80=9D claim? Any knowledge or experience about the coverage (=E2=80=9Cc=
one=E2=80=9D) of a single halogen vs. 2 LEDs at ~15 feet height? Anything e=
lse I should consider?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10p=
t;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:"Ari=
al",sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">--K=
ent<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div>___________________________________=
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