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It's definitely threaded and it's not the kind that goes into a radiator
line or the ones that just fit dry into a port on the block--this thing is
an element exposed to coolant. It's 24mm. I thought it might be taking over
a drain plug until I saw it, but if that's a drain plug, it's bigger than
any drain plug I've ever seen.
I guess maybe there's just a threaded port in the side of the engine on
spec that people want to install heaters as an option?
I guess either way somebody's going to have to look and find it. At least I
know I'm not looking for a freeze plug.
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 11:46 AM John Innis <jdinnis@gmail.com> wrote:
> There are different styles of those heaters. Some intended to install in
> a freeze plug, some intended for go in a radiator hose, and some intended
> to go in place of a drain plug or port plug. It sounds like he has one
> that is meant to go in a drain plug?
>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 11:22 AM Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> This is mostly theory.
>>
>> One of my staff wants to stick a frost heater in his car--it's a Kia with
>> a 3.3L engine (though I don't think that matters for the question).
>>
>> Since he thinks I'm a car guy--which in his head means I know everything
>> about all cars--he's asking for help.
>>
>> He brought in the instructions and the heater itself. The instructions
>> are pretty simple: drain coolant, "remove plug" (quotes mine--it just says
>> "plug", so I'm assuming that's a freeze/expansion plug), screw in heater,
>> refill coolant, etc.
>>
>> The heater to install is threaded. It says to torque it to 30 lb. ft.
>>
>> The plug he's removing probably isn't...I'd think.
>>
>> Obviously without rolling under the car, who knows? But I'm tempted to
>> tell him to not start--the only way I know to remove a freeze plug is to
>> drill a hole in it, then pull it out with something. If there are no
>> threads behind it--and I can't imagine that a press-in freeze plug presses
>> in to a threaded hole--then he's just going to need a new freeze plug to
>> reinstall.
>>
>> So I guess my questions to the list are:
>>
>> 1) anyone ever see a threaded freeze plug? That would seem to defeat the
>> whole purpose of allowing it to pop out.
>>
>> 2) anyone ever see threads behind a freeze plug? Perhaps the plug presses
>> into a smooth port, and there are threads behind it?
>>
>> We called the manufacturer who confirmed that the part number is correct.
>> It's used on several models so they couldn't say for sure other than,
>> "it'll work". I'd hate to see this kid pull out a freeze plug then be
>> screwed.
>>
>> YouTube similarly has nothing relevant.
>>
>> Anybody have any experience with this before I just have him drive over
>> and roll under the car to see what I'm looking at?
>>
>> Thanks.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">It's definitely threaded and it's not the kind tha=
t goes into a radiator line or the ones that just fit dry into a port on th=
e block--this thing is an element exposed to coolant. It's 24mm. I thou=
ght it might be taking over a drain plug until I saw it, but if that's =
a drain plug, it's bigger than any drain plug I've ever seen.<div><=
br></div><div>I guess maybe there's just a threaded port in the side of=
the engine on spec that people want to install heaters as an option?</div>=
<div><br></div><div>I guess either way somebody's going to have to look=
and find it. At least I know I'm not looking for a freeze plug.</div><=
/div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">O=
n Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 11:46 AM John Innis <<a href=3D"mailto:jdinnis@gm=
ail.com">jdinnis@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,2=
04,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">There are different styles of th=
ose heaters.=C2=A0 Some intended to install in a freeze plug, some intended=
for go in a radiator hose, and some intended to go in place of a drain plu=
g or port plug.=C2=A0 It sounds like he has one that is meant to go in a dr=
ain plug?<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 11:22 AM Scott Hall <<a href=3D"mai=
lto:scott.hall.personal@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">scott.hall.personal@gm=
ail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-lef=
t:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">This is mostly theory.<div><br></div><div>One of my=
staff wants to stick a frost heater in his car--it's a Kia with a 3.3L=
engine (though I don't think that matters for the question).</div><div=
><br></div><div>Since he thinks I'm a car guy--which in his head means =
I know everything about all cars--he's asking for help.</div><div><br><=
/div><div>He brought in the instructions=C2=A0and the heater itself. The in=
structions are pretty simple: drain coolant, "remove plug" (quote=
s mine--it just says "plug", so I'm assuming that's a fre=
eze/expansion plug), screw in heater, refill coolant, etc.</div><div><br></=
div><div>The heater to install is threaded. It says to torque it to 30 lb. =
ft.</div><div><br></div><div>The plug he's removing probably isn't.=
..I'd think.</div><div><br></div><div>Obviously without rolling under t=
he car, who knows? But I'm tempted to tell him to not start--the only w=
ay I know to remove a freeze plug is to drill a hole in it, then pull it ou=
t with something. If there are no threads behind it--and I can't imagin=
e that a press-in freeze plug presses in to a threaded hole--then he's =
just going to need a new freeze plug to reinstall.</div><div><br></div><div=
>So I guess my questions to the list are:</div><div><br></div><div>1) anyon=
e ever see a threaded freeze plug? That would seem to defeat the whole purp=
ose of allowing it to pop out.</div><div><br></div><div>2) anyone ever see =
threads behind a freeze plug? Perhaps the plug presses into a smooth port, =
and there are threads behind it?</div><div><br></div><div>We called the man=
ufacturer who confirmed that the part number is correct. It's used on s=
everal models so they couldn't say for sure other than, "it'll=
work". I'd hate to see this kid pull out a freeze plug then be sc=
rewed.</div><div><br></div><div>YouTube similarly has nothing relevant.</di=
v><div><br></div><div>Anybody have any experience with this before I just h=
ave him drive over and roll under the car to see what I'm looking at?</=
div><div><br></div><div>Thanks.</div></div>
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