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It's been a few years, but bought it either at Lowe's or Walmart and it was
a quart size plastic bottle with a powder you mixed with warm water. I
think it was roebic brand.
Ben
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 5:47 PM Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com> wrote:
> Any favorites out there or brands to avoid?
> thanks
>
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> Benjamin Zwissler <bjzwissler@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2020 8:01 AM
> *To:* Jim Franklin <jamesf@groupwbench.org>
> *Cc:* Shop Talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] Soil stack venting issue
>
> I've had two similar issues. Both solved and one may be helpful to you.
> BTW, my house is all PVC drains, but I'm not sure that matters.
>
> My clothes washer drain shared a pipe with a floor drain and utility tub
> (sink). The floor drain began gurgling when water drained from the other
> two. I tried flushing it but that didn't help. What did help was using
> some bacteria based drain cleaner. It claims to have helpful bacteria
> that, among other things, eat soap scum. That has worked for many years,
> except when I flush a lot of harsh cleaners down the utility sink. I used
> to do some auto part washing in that sink, but don't any longer and I
> haven't had to add more bacterial cleaner for a long time. My thought was
> the harsh chemicals were killing the bacteria.
>
> The other example was on my HVAC unit's condensate drain. It was nothing
> but a gravity drain and after many years it began backing up occasionally
> and then flooding the whole unit with water. I could disconnect it and
> blow through it and that was enough to clear the clog. Also using that
> pipe was a bathroom and the kitchen sink/dishwasher. I tried lots of
> things (bleach, detergent, bacterial drain cleaners, etc) thinking mold,
> moss, grease, etc was blocking it, but in the end I installed an HVAC sump
> with a pump that collects a quart or so of water and then pumps it out.
> That's worked flawlessly for a few years --- until the pump breaks.
>
> Ben
>
>
> Ben Zwissler
> bjzwissler@gmail.com
> 812-343-5533
> Columbus, IN
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 8:25 AM Jim Franklin <jamesf@groupwbench.org>
> wrote:
>
> Maybe some of you have an innovative solution...
>
> My house has a single cast iron soil stack that does both drain and vent.
> When I flush the toilet, it sucks air from the tub drain. The toilet and
> tub enter the stack separately, but at the same height, using an oddly
> specific T with a 4" toilet and a 2" tub inlet about 45 degrees apart. The
> tub does not have its own vent. 2 years ago I had a plumber snake the vent
> from the roof, he found "stuff", and it was fixed. Last week it started
> again.
>
> My kitchen sink T's into the stack at knee height, so it's the highest
> item on the stack. My thought is, because it's a straight T, not a sanitary
> T, stuff from the sink is solidifying inside the T when the flow hits the
> back of the T, and eventually forming a cap of "stuff" just above the T
> entry, sealing off any venting. I can't tell if the sink is also being used
> as the toilet's vent because there are too many walls in the way to hear
> what's happening.
>
> My other thought is that the "stuff" is growing like a mold, and sealing
> it off. Does stuff grow in drains?
>
> Any thoughts on what it might be, and how to prevent it? I rarely put oils
> down the drain, and when I do they are cold and mixed with Dawn to emulsify
> it. There isn't enough canopy for leaves or squirrels to get in the roof
> vent.
>
> thanks,
> jim
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<div dir=3D"auto">It's been a few years, but bought it either at Lowe&#=
39;s or Walmart and it was a quart size plastic bottle with a powder you mi=
xed with warm water.=C2=A0 I think it was roebic brand.<div dir=3D"auto"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"auto">Ben</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, 5:47 PM Tim . <<=
a href=3D"mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com";>tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.c=
om</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
Any favorites out there or brands to avoid?=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
thanks</div>
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alibri, sans-serif" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b>=
Shop-talk <<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> on =
behalf of Benjamin Zwissler <<a href=3D"mailto:bjzwissler@gmail.com"; tar=
get=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">bjzwissler@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 7, 2020 8:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jim Franklin <<a href=3D"mailto:jamesf@groupwbench.org"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">jamesf@groupwbench.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Shop Talk <<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Soil stack venting issue</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I've had two similar issues.=C2=A0 Both solved and one=
may be helpful to you.=C2=A0 BTW, my house is all PVC drains, but I'm =
not sure that matters.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>My clothes washer drain shared a pipe with a floor drain and utility t=
ub (sink).=C2=A0 The floor drain began gurgling when water drained from the=
other two.=C2=A0 I tried flushing it but that didn't help.=C2=A0 What =
did help was using some bacteria based drain cleaner.=C2=A0
It claims to have helpful bacteria that, among other things, eat soap scum=
.=C2=A0 That has worked for many years, except when I flush a lot of harsh =
cleaners down the utility sink.=C2=A0 I used to do some auto part washing i=
n that sink, but don't any longer and I haven't
had to add more bacterial cleaner for a long time.=C2=A0 My thought was th=
e harsh chemicals were killing the bacteria.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The other example was on my HVAC unit's condensate drain.=C2=A0 It=
was nothing but a gravity drain and after many years it began backing up o=
ccasionally and then flooding the whole unit with water.=C2=A0 I could disc=
onnect it and blow through it and that was enough
to clear the clog.=C2=A0 Also using that pipe was a bathroom and the kitch=
en sink/dishwasher.=C2=A0 I tried lots of things (bleach, detergent, bacter=
ial drain cleaners, etc) thinking mold, moss, grease, etc was blocking it, =
but in the end I installed an HVAC sump with
a pump that collects a quart or so of water and then pumps it out.=C2=A0 T=
hat's worked flawlessly for a few years --- until the pump breaks.</div=
>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Ben</div>
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<div>Ben Zwissler<br>
</div>
<a href=3D"mailto:bjzwissler@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer=
">bjzwissler@gmail.com</a><br>
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<div>812-343-5533</div>
Columbus, IN<br>
</div>
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</div>
</div>
</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 8:25 AM Jim Franklin <<a href=3D=
"mailto:jamesf@groupwbench.org"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">jamesf=
@groupwbench.org</a>> wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
Maybe some of you have an innovative solution...<br>
<br>
My house has a single cast iron soil stack that does both drain and vent. W=
hen I flush the toilet, it sucks air from the tub drain. The toilet and tub=
enter the stack separately, but at the same height, using an oddly specifi=
c T with a 4" toilet and a 2" tub
inlet about 45 degrees apart. The tub does not have its own vent. 2 years =
ago I had a plumber snake the vent from the roof, he found "stuff"=
;, and it was fixed. Last week it started again.<br>
<br>
My kitchen sink T's into the stack at knee height, so it's the high=
est item on the stack. My thought is, because it's a straight T, not a =
sanitary T, stuff from the sink is solidifying inside the T when the flow h=
its the back of the T, and eventually forming
a cap of "stuff" just above the T entry, sealing off any venting=
. I can't tell if the sink is also being used as the toilet's vent =
because there are too many walls in the way to hear what's happening.
<br>
<br>
My other thought is that the "stuff" is growing like a mold, and =
sealing it off. Does stuff grow in drains?
<br>
<br>
Any thoughts on what it might be, and how to prevent it? I rarely put oils =
down the drain, and when I do they are cold and mixed with Dawn to emulsify=
it. There isn't enough canopy for leaves or squirrels to get in the ro=
of vent.
<br>
<br>
thanks,<br>
jim<br>
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