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Re: [Shop-talk] failed light fixture?

To: "Tim ." <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] failed light fixture?
From: Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2020 17:20:05 -0500
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Switches fail all of the time, too.  Don=E2=80=99t forget to check that.

> On Dec 6, 2020, at 5:16 PM, Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com> =
wrote:
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> three of the bulbs are LED so no heat issues.=20
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> I'll grab the multi meter tomorrow and do some checking
> =20
> thanks all
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> From: Benjamin Zwissler <bjzwissler@gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 4:15 PM
> To: Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com>
> Cc: old dirtbeard <dirtbeard@gmail.com>; Shop Talk =
<shop-talk@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] failed light fixture?
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> Sometimes it's just the wire nuts and replacing them or tightening =
will help.  Sometimes the internal crimps corrode and fail in a most =
bathroom. =20
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> I had someone who put four 100w bulbs in one and that's a lot of heat =
and current.  Most have a 60w limit.  If the bulbs are enclosed by the =
fixture there may be a high temp limit switch, but I've never seen one =
of those in simple light bars.
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> Ben
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> On Sun, Dec 6, 2020, 5:07 PM Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com =
> no, incandescent fixture.=20
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> Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 4:05 PM
> To: Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com =
> Cc: Shop Talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net =
> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] failed light fixture?
> =20
> Hi Tim
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> Is it a fluorescent fixture? If so it could be the ballast. It also =
may be the switch. I would try a meter at the switch if you have a =
neutral there to test it.
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> best,
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> doug
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> On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 2:01 PM Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com =
> Hey all,=20
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> Is it possible for a fixture to fail? We have this four-bulb fixture =
over the mirror in one of the bathrooms. It no longer works. Bulbs are =
good and no breaker tripped.=20
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> thanks
> tim
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
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class=3D"">Switches fail all of the time, too. &nbsp;Don=E2=80=99t =
forget to check that.<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Dec 6, 2020, at 5:16 PM, Tim =
. &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com"; =
class=3D"">tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
charset=3D"UTF-8" class=3D""><div style=3D"font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; =
font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">three of the bulbs are LED so no heat =
issues.&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div style=3D"font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; =
font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">I'll grab the multi meter tomorrow and do =
some checking</div><div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"font-style: normal; =
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normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; =
font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">thanks&nbsp;all</div><div =
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14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
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Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><hr tabindex=3D"-1" style=3D"display: inline-block; =
width: 714.40625px;" class=3D""><div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size: 11pt;" =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">From:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Benjamin Zwissler &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:bjzwissler@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">bjzwissler@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Sunday, December 6, 2020 =
4:15 PM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Tim . &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com"; =
class=3D"">tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Cc:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>old =
dirtbeard &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dirtbeard@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">dirtbeard@gmail.com</a>&gt;; Shop Talk &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Shop-talk] failed =
light fixture?</font><div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div></div><div =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Sometimes it's just the wire =
nuts and replacing them or tightening will help.&nbsp; Sometimes the =
internal crimps corrode and fail in a most bathroom.&nbsp;&nbsp;<div =
dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"auto" =
class=3D"">I had someone who put four 100w bulbs in one and that's a lot =
of heat and current.&nbsp; Most have a 60w limit.&nbsp; If the bulbs are =
enclosed by the fixture there may be a high temp limit switch, but I've =
never seen one of those in simple light bars.<div dir=3D"auto" =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"auto" =
class=3D"">Ben</div></div></div><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"x_gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"x_gmail_attr">On Sun, =
Dec 6, 2020, 5:07 PM Tim . &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com"; =
class=3D"">tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"x_gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: =
0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; =
border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, =
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">no, incandescent fixture<span =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D"">.&nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D""><div =
id=3D"x_m_-917542421128024479appendonsend" class=3D""></div><div =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><hr style=3D"display: inline-block; =
width: 700.546875px;" class=3D""><div =
id=3D"x_m_-917542421128024479divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><font =
face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size: 11pt;" class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">From:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>old=
 dirtbeard &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dirtbeard@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" class=3D"">dirtbeard@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><b=
 class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Sunday, December 6, 2020 =
4:05 PM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Tim . &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" class=3D"">tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com</a>&gt;<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Cc:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Shop Talk &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" class=3D"">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Shop-talk] failed =
light fixture?</font><div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div></div><div =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Hi Tim<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Is it a fluorescent fixture? If so it =
could be the ballast. It also may be the switch. I would try a meter at =
the switch if you have a neutral there to test it.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">best,</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">doug</div></div><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">On Sun, Dec 6, =
2020 at 2:01 PM Tim . &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
class=3D"">tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; =
border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: =
rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; =
font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">Hey all,&nbsp;</div><div =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, =
Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">Is it possible for a =
fixture to fail? We have this four-bulb fixture over the mirror in one =
of the bathrooms. It no longer works. Bulbs are good and no breaker =
tripped.&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, =
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D"">thanks</div><div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, =
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D"">tim</div></div>_______________________________________________<=
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