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To: Shop Talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] software
From: Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 16:56:12 -0400
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My only addition to what has already been said is to ask if you =
frequently need to do collaborative work with others who use Office?  I =
happily used open software for years, but had to bite the bullet and get =
an Office license when I started doing work with a friend who was using =
Office.  While the open source software will let you save Office files, =
we often found minor, but annoying, differences going back and forth in =
formatting that created problems and extra work.  This was about 4 years =
ago and it may be better today, but I have stayed with MS to be safe.

> On Oct 6, 2020, at 4:29 PM, Larry Spector <lspector@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> Have you looked at using the Google Suite tools? I use Google Sheets =
(Excel clone) and Google Docs (Word clone) and while not as full =
featured, they do the trick for my purposes. Both allow you download as =
.pdf files.
>=20
> -Larry
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> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 4:17 PM Tony Vaccaro <tvacc@lotusowners.com =
> This is the business I am in.  Use www.libreoffice.org =
<http://www.libreoffice.org/> for the office suite and use =
www.foxitsoftware.com <http://www.foxitsoftware.com/> for the free pdf =
reader.
>=20
> And just as an aside, ESET.com is the best anti-virus software out =
there.  Not free, but it is the best.
>=20
> Tony V
>=20
> =20
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> Anthony Vaccaro
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> President=20
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> Lotus Owners of New York (LOONY)
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> http://www.lotusowners.com <http://www.lotusowners.com/>
> President
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> Lotus Ltd
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> http://www.lotusltd.com <http://www.lotusltd.com/>
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> =20
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> From: Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net =
> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2020 3:47 PM
> To: Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com =
> Cc: Shop Talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net =
> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] software
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Look into =E2=80=98OpenOffice.=E2=80=99 It=E2=80=99s open =
source/shareware ... it has Word and Excel equivalents (dunno about pdf =
export though).
>=20
> =20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Oct 6, 2020, at 12:42 PM, Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com =
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF=20
>=20
> Had to buy a new laptop. For years I've been using an office products =
suite license that I bought years ago. As each old laptop dies, I get =
another used one, move the license, etc etc.=20
>=20
> =20
>=20
> This Win10 machine won't run this old software. No surprise there.=20
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Sooooooo.....I need Word and Excel for my side hustle. I am not =
against buying stand alones if I have to but if I am seeing this =
correctly, they are now only "annual licenses" that would have to be =
renewed each year. What a crock...er, I mean racket.=20
>=20
> =20
>=20
> I looked at open source but there are so many that I quickly got =
confused.=20
>=20
> =20
>=20
> One thing that is a must have is creating an invoice in Word then =
saving it as a pdf for sending to our customers. If none of the open =
source stuff has this feature, then I'd be forced to go with Word.=20
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Shop content: I am selling buying and selling parts that are stored in =
my garage shop and my basement shop.=20
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Thanks all
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> tim
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">My =
only addition to what has already been said is to ask if you frequently =
need to do collaborative work with others who use Office? &nbsp;I =
happily used open software for years, but had to bite the bullet and get =
an&nbsp;Office&nbsp;license when I started doing work with a friend who =
was using Office. &nbsp;While the open source software will let you save =
Office files, we often found minor, but annoying, differences going back =
and forth in formatting that created problems and extra work. &nbsp;This =
was about 4 years ago and it may be better today, but I have stayed with =
MS to be safe.<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
 class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Oct 6, 2020, at 4:29 PM, Larry Spector =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lspector@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">lspector@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D"">Have =
you looked at using the Google Suite tools? I use Google Sheets (Excel =
clone) and Google Docs (Word clone) and while not as full featured, they =
do the trick for my purposes. Both allow you download as .pdf files.<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">-Larry</div></div><br =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 4:17 =
PM Tony Vaccaro &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tvacc@lotusowners.com"; =
class=3D"">tvacc@lotusowners.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; =
border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div =
lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail-m_-2635748848842268916WordSection1"><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">This is the business I am in.&nbsp; Use<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"http://www.libreoffice.org/"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">www.libreoffice.org</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>for the office suite and =
use<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"http://www.foxitsoftware.com/"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">www.foxitsoftware.com</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>for the free pdf reader.<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">And just as =
an aside, <a href=3D"http://ESET.com"; class=3D"">ESET.com</a> is the =
best anti-virus software out there.&nbsp; Not free, but it is the =
best.<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Tony =
V<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u =
class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></p><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">Anthony Vaccaro<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D"">President<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Lotus Owners of New =
York (LOONY)<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;"><b class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D""><a =
href=3D"http://www.lotusowners.com/"; target=3D"_blank" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"color: blue;" class=3D"">http://www.lotusowners.</span><span =
style=3D"color: blue;" class=3D"">com</span></a></span></b><span =
style=3D"font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D"">President<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Lotus Ltd<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;"><b class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D""><a href=3D"http://www.lotusltd.com/"; =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D""><span style=3D"color: blue;" =
class=3D"">http://www.lotusltd.com</span></a></span></b><span =
style=3D"font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p></div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></p><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"border-style: solid none none; =
border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: =
3pt 0in 0in;" class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b =
class=3D"">From:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Shop-talk &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b class=3D"">On Behalf =
Of<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Bob Spidell<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Tuesday, October 06, 2020 =
3:47 PM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Tim . &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Cc:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Shop =
Talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Shop-talk] software<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u=
 class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></p><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">Look into =E2=80=98OpenOffice.=E2=80=99 It=E2=80=99s =
open source/shareware ... it has Word and Excel equivalents (dunno about =
pdf export though).<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p></div><div =
class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></p></div><div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></p><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: =
5pt;" class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: =
12pt;">On Oct 6, 2020, at 12:42 PM, Tim . &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=EF=BB=BF<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></p><div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">Had to buy a new laptop. For years =
I've been using an office products suite license that I bought years =
ago. As each old laptop dies, I get another used one, move the license, =
etc etc.&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p></div><div =
class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></span></p></div><div=
 class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D"">This Win10 machine won't run this old software. No surprise =
there.&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p></div><div =
class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></span></p></div><div=
 class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D"">Sooooooo.....I need Word and Excel for my side hustle. I am =
not against buying stand alones if I have to but if I am seeing this =
correctly, they are now only "annual licenses" that would have to be =
renewed each year. What a crock...er, I mean racket.&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p></div><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" class=3D""><u =
class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></span></p></div><div class=3D""><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">I =
looked at open source but there are so many that I quickly got =
confused.&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p></div><div =
class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></span></p></div><div=
 class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D"">One thing that is a must have is creating an invoice in Word =
then saving it as a pdf for sending to our customers. If none of the =
open source stuff has this feature, then I'd be forced to go with =
Word.&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p></div><div =
class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></span></p></div><div=
 class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D"">Shop content: I am selling buying and selling parts that are =
stored in my garage shop and my basement shop.&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></p></div><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" class=3D""><u =
class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></span></p></div><div class=3D""><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D"">Thanks&nbsp;all<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></p></div><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">tim<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin-bottom: =
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