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To: "Tim ." <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] another toilet issue
From: Jack Brooks <JIBrooks@live.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 00:05:36 +0000
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Tim,

I had that in one of my rentals.  I plunged, snaked as best as I could and =
eventually pulled the toilet.  I check both ends for an obstruction.  Event=
ually, I did notice something, really small which was not white when lookin=
g in from the bowl side.  It was barely visible deep in the toilet.  I coul=
d not get it out, but fortunately had my 10 year old son with small hands. =
 It took a lot of begging, promises that it was very clean and a promise of=
 an ice cream afterwards and he finally reached in and snagged a small toy =
that was restricting flow.  He had no interest in keeping the toy. <grin>

I suspect there is something that is blocking the flow, probably originatin=
g from the bowl side.  Don't pull the toilet, but do whatever you can to se=
e into the deeper parts of the toilet and you may find your answer.

Jack

From: Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Tim .
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 2:39 PM
To: shop-talk@autox.team.net
Subject: [Shop-talk] another toilet issue

Hey all,

While trying to sort the valve on our upstairs toilet, the toilet itself no=
w doesn't fully flush. The tank bits cycle, the toilet fills, but it only d=
rains slowly. It doesn't "gurgle" (for lack of a better term) at the end.

This has been going on for over a week now so I doubt there is anything stu=
ck. (no feminine products in use in our house any more so that is not an is=
sue.) I've plunged the hell out of it, pushing down and also sucking up wit=
h plunger. I can't really get a snake to go very far into the trap so not m=
uch help there.

I remember reading years ago that a clogged or compromised vent can affect =
sink drainage. Is it possible that this issue is affecting this toilet? The=
 sink and tub in the upstairs bathrrom are no affected. They both drain fin=
e. Hell, nothing else in the house is affected.

thoughts please?
thanks
tim

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ti=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;,serif;color:#002060">I had that in one of my rentals.&n=
bsp; I plunged, snaked as best as I could and eventually pulled the toilet.=
&nbsp; I check both ends for an obstruction.&nbsp; Eventually,
 I did notice something, really small which was not white when looking in f=
rom the bowl side.&nbsp; It was barely visible deep in the toilet.&nbsp; I =
could not get it out, but fortunately had my 10 year old son with small han=
ds.&nbsp; It took a lot of begging, promises that
 it was very clean and a promise of an ice cream afterwards and he finally =
reached in and snagged a small toy that was restricting flow.&nbsp; He had =
no interest in keeping the toy. &lt;grin&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ti=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;,serif;color:#002060">I suspect there is something that =
is blocking the flow, probably originating from the bowl side.&nbsp; Don&#8=
217;t pull the toilet, but do whatever you can to see into
 the deeper parts of the toilet and you may find your answer. <o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Shop-talk &lt;shop-talk-bounces@autox.t=
eam.net&gt; <b>
On Behalf Of </b>Tim .<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, August 22, 2020 2:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> shop-talk@autox.team.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Shop-talk] another toilet issue<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Hey all=
,&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">While t=
rying to sort the valve on our upstairs toilet, the toilet itself now doesn=
't fully flush. The tank bits cycle, the toilet fills, but it only drains s=
lowly. It doesn't &quot;gurgle&quot; (for lack
 of a better term) at the end.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">This ha=
s been going on for over a week now so I doubt there is anything stuck. (no=
 feminine products in use in our house any more so that is not an issue.) I=
've plunged the hell out of it, pushing
 down and also sucking up with plunger. I can't really get a snake to go ve=
ry far into the trap so not much help there.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I remem=
ber reading years ago that a clogged or compromised vent can affect sink dr=
ainage. Is it possible that this issue is affecting this toilet? The sink a=
nd tub in the upstairs bathrrom are
 no affected. They both drain fine. Hell, nothing else in the house is affe=
cted.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">thought=
s please?<br>
thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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